I was being pessimistic when I said he wouldn't be charged with squat if they run the Stormy Daniels case before, you know, ruling on the integrity of our highest office.
My father still remains hopeful "they'll get him like they got Al Capone" (on taxes), but I have a hard time seeing that through when he still has judges appointed by him, ruling on him. Oh and yeah we're not even going to approach his highest crimes because that would be disadvantageous to his campaign... give me a break ffs
There are allegations, and even a court filling from the prosecutor, that the boxes of evidence have not been maintained in original condition, and that evidence photos may have been staged by the FBI to appear more damming.
Listen, I've seen this in every thread. The judges are just being extra careful so they can make sure the case doesn't get thrown out because it's a highly sensitive subject.
Four years just wasn't enough time. You have to be patient about these things. Give us another Friedman Unit or two to settle things out.
They're trying to conflate a right-wing judge's bias with those biG bAd LibErAlS who defend Garland's meticulous albeit slow investigation and hand-off to Jack Smith I guess.
Not sure if sarcasm or not, but after following quite a few (yes, YouTube) lawyers on this subject, I think it's fair to say that a lot of it actually is that; Trump is a slippery bastard and getting him convicted is hard. last thing you want is to convict him, have fox news pull the "they made a mistake" cars, and actually be right. Once trump goes to jail, you better be sure he stays there.
Why always with the French. They waited for us to go first anyhoo. Let's take back the I word from them and those Redcoats, I mean hats... I'm rocking stars and stripes and remembering 76! This our goddamn America, and they can hate our freedoms all they want, but this is the US motherfuckin A!
their protest used to start revolutions and now their protests are safely ignored until they run out of steam; the people in charge have gotten really good forcing everyone else to choose between a future and right now
Yeah - my wealthy ex’s family bought him expensive lawyers, so he got to ignore multiple court orders during the divorce, while mine took $3k to do fuck all. “Justice” is contingent on being able to afford good lawyers.
I'd prefer for the cases to get wrapped up before the election, but I'll settle for Biden winning and the delay tactics all becoming moot as Trump reaps what he sows.
It might actually become a motivational point for both sides in this election for Trump to either see justice or skirt by it.
Northern neighbor here, thank you. I don't want to see Trump back, but am also glad I don't have to vote in your elections. Not that I hate Biden, but your Democrats make our conservatives look like Communists..
You're assuming Trump will win the election. He won't.
Jesus, why do people forget that Trump lost an election while being president and while trying to tamper with it? What makes you think he will win this time?
Remember when people balked at Trump being president back in 2014/2015 and then were very surprised come 2016 when he won?
Don't underestimate Trump
Don't be complacent... complacency is what put him in the white house the first time
Peoples memories are short, the republican propaganda machine is huge, and trump didn't lose decisively enough to reflect the damage he did to the country
Yes, I remember this. But people have wised up. How do I know? Because Trump lost while being a sitting president, an event that doesn't happen often. At least in 2015/2016, a lot of people were giving him the benefit of the doubt. And it wasn't the majority (he lost the popular vote, as we all know.)
Just do a google search with these terms: polls show clinton trump biden
You will see polls largely favoring Hillary, or largely favoring Biden, or saying that Trump is winning. Then in the end the elections are pretty much 50/50.
As far as I can tell, reputable sources placed Clinton in the lead for 2016 with some margin of error to account for the electoral college. She did win the popular vote, so the polls I've seen were correct. Similar for Biden, but he had a larger lead in states that Clinton previously didn't.
Sorry, I'm on my phone or I'd put more work in here, but you're the one with the concern anyway so I'd think it would be better if you took the time to demonstrate your claim more thoroughly.
In my experience over the last few election cycles the polls tend to understate the support of the right wing candidate
Almost all the polls showed Hillary winning in 2016
Almost all the polls showed Trump losing in a landslide in 2020, yes the dems got the whitehouse, the senate and the house but the majorities were much thinner than expected.
Exactly my experience. The poll would indicate a vast advantage of one candidate over the other, then the election shows results that are very, very close calls.
The polls are actually pretty good. There are two problems:
The US is very closely divided when it comes to the Presidential Election. In 2016 the popular vote split was about 2%. In 2020 it was about 4.5%. And most of the polling was right in that range.
People are shit at statistics. Most of the polls will be published with an error margin of 5% or so. For situations where on candidate is ahead 10-20%, this still puts that candidate winning by a comfortable margin. When the poll is showing a race with one person ahead by 2%, that means the poll is also showing that the other candidate winning is well within the expected result.
And unfortunately, people like clean story-lines and news organizations are more than happy to supply them. Journalists looked at the polls in 2016 and confidently proclaimed that Clinton was leading. The reality was that she had a slight lead and Trump winning was well within the normal margin of error. This turned into a rather famous spat on twitter.
Sadly, we've been stuck in that situation ever since. In 2020, Biden was a slight favorite, but Trump winning was within the margin of error. Right now, polls show a dead heat and either candidate winning would not be a surprise, if the election were held today. One upshot in this, is that pools this early are not very predictive of the final outcome. They shouldn't be ignored, but that also shouldn't be taken as gospel.
So ya, the polls are fine and do a good job of reflecting the actual results of the elections. The problem is idiots that only look at the top-line outcome and don't look at the actual numbers and see that they are actually saying "it's close and could go either way."
It's not like I disagree with you, but we're looking at the same thing with different lens. You're saying things like "science is accurate" which I can agree with. But then you see headlines like "science says vaccines cause autism," and that's what I'm talking about.
So, in your own words:
The polls are actually pretty good.
People are shit at statistics.
And unfortunately, people like clean story-lines and news organizations are more than happy to supply them.
We're not disagreeing.
If I see a report that says "polls show that Biden/Trump/Clinton is winning," I'll think "I'll believe it on election day."
Ignore the polls. Look at the trump signs around you. At least where I'm at in Florida, they're probably at tenth of what they were in 2020. I was a republican in 2020 that voted for Biden and renounced my affiliation after the senate acquitted in the second impeachment. The only demographic that Trump is seeing increased support from is young men, a famously allergic to going to the polls group.
We should fight like hell to make it a landslide but the polls published right now are only there to drive engagement. Democrats have outperformed the polls by 5-10pts in every election since 2020.
Trump mostly lost because of his handling of COVID. If he had just said, "hey everyone, this virus is dangerous you might want to take more care and listen to doctors" instead of making it political or denying it so long then he probably would have won. People have already forgotten COVID and are upset with inflation, and many of them blame Biden for that. They rightly aren't happy with the economy, since rising stock markets and low unemployment doesn't equate to rising wages to match inflation.
Biden has done a ton of good things as President, but it never gets press. The bad stuff he has done has gotten a ton of press. I think it will be close again and am hopeful Biden does better at highlighting the good things he's done.
He also won when no one (least of all me) suspected he would. I still remember my wife waking me up (i had gone to bed, so sure was i) to tell me Trump had won, and i actually could not believe the words out of her mouth.
Complacency was very helpful in his winning the election last time, so remember that fact if nothing else. Biden may even be less loved as a candidate than Big H was in '16.
No no no. This is just a very special exception to the Rules Based International Order we've always had.
Normally, America is very good about prosecuting plutocrats. But this time Russia stopped us. We just have to beat Russia. Only then can we prosecute Donald Trump.
After decades of Americans saving the world in movies I can now confidently say that they instead will just sit at home continuing their consumption until someone comes and shoots them like a dog. We jUsT NeeD tO VoTe HArdEr
For who? Democrats just idly sit around and get even older while republicans rape every single institution without consequences. They commited a fucking insurrection and nothing happened.
Democrats had a majority for years and yet the american society and politics continue to be more fucked up.
American democracy is just an illusion of freedom they allow you to have. Their two party system is the best proof for that. They will never allow you to change anything because the for profit government is working as they intended.
Oh yes the classic “if he is criticizing the failure of american politics he must be a russian troll”.
What’s next? I can’t criticize the sitting american president for funding genocide because im immediately a trump suppoerter?
I can’t criticize the sitting american president for funding genocide
That comment is often made by certain people. Initially you imply "both parties are the same", then follow-up with the genocide comment about the current president. That does repeat the usual disinformation. And it seems you're "just asking questions" at the moment.
I would assume you're a Trumpanzee if you fail to note that Donald wants Israel to "finish the job." That Donald entered office on a campaign of racism and started his term with a Muslim ban.
Other than that I am also dismayed with what the country is up to.
They commited a fucking insurrection and nothing happened.
Thousands of people were put in jail. Nothing was done about Trump because Republicans blocked that and Democrats couldn't do anything on their own. Currently nothing is being done thanks to the help of judges Trump appointed.
There's a huge difference in these parties. But it seems you just repeat propaganda by implying both parties are the same.
Vote for the best option you have. Maybe you don't feel like the current options are great; but just suppose you keep voting for the best of your options, and that best option keeps winning. The idea is that later someone will think "maybe I can win by being even better...". That's the theory of democracy anyway. If the best candidate keeps winning, then the competition improves to challenge them. But right now that doesn't seem to be happening.
As long as someone like Trump can get even vaguely close to victory, that either means that a near-majority of Americans believe Trump is the better option, or that not enough people are voting. I think it's probably the second one. The republican strategy has nothing to do with fielding the best candidate. Instead they rely on feeding voter apathy, anger, and doubt. They want anyone who isn't a zealot to be uncertain about voting. That's how they win. We're not going to see the best candidates while that strategy is in play. And to beat the 'don't vote' strategy... well, you just have to vote.
For what? No change? The status quo? I’d rather vote for America’s downfall so that the pain and terror Americans inflict overseas, is felt here in our borders.
Americans love violence so much, why should you have peace in your streets?
Because a majority of people dislike the same violence, want to see military spending reduced to pay for the things the population need. However, the best we can do to get all that it's vote and protest and they're making both "illegal", or at least trying. Don't think everyone here is a craven money leech.
Many of us just want to live free of worry and pain, be happy with family and friends, and try to make this planet as livable, as we can for all, with the husk of a world we are left with.
What a psycho. Were you asleep in the WWII section or do that cover that in a later grade at your school? A fascist dictatorship will be invading foreign nations harder than it ever has. All while removing the rights and lives of minority groups domestically.
