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‘Only Hamas can defend us’: Israeli raids and Fatah failures boost support in West Bank ( www.theguardian.com )

Khalil, a shy 21-year-old whose name has been changed, was arrested in a pre-dawn raid last October for his allegiance to Hamas. But when Israeli forces smashed through the door of his family home, they didn’t tell him why they were detaining him. He was imprisoned for six months without charge, in conditions he described as...

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Wow repressing a population under the pretext of fighting terrorists only radicalises that population. We certainly couldn't have predicted this based on millennia of examples.

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I'm not going to dispute your clearly superior knowledge of basketball statistics, and those are all remarkable parallels, but I think it's more likely they were referring to the helicopter crash.

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Where on the internet is the anti-AI crowd at large talking about divine sparks of creativity? I am the only person I've seen saying that the only way you get an AI that can truly replace workers is by birthing a new intelligence and then it is wrong to enslave it. I didn't know there were others!

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Okay but you can acknowledge the exploitation whilst also admitting that AI doesn't make art and what it does make is universally bad. The fact it's using exploited labour and is being used to threaten jobs makes the fact its output sucks even more of a slap in the face. These ideas are not in tension; two things can be true.

Art means something. Art is any creation that meaningfully expresses the intent of its creator. If you want to make art, you need to understand meaning, and current "AI" is devoid of meaning or understanding. It's not about some nebulous "spark", it's that there is no intention behind an LLM's output. It is a stochastic parrot.

Maybe a person can use AI generated imagery to make something with artistic merit, but that's because their time and attention was put into curating it, not because an AI drew a picture that seems plausible if you don't look at it too closely.

An AI needs to have comprehension before it can intend anything. Art isn't "art" just because it makes pretty pictures.

If you want to say AI as it currently exists can make art, then I'd be fascinated to hear what you think art is, and how your definition differs from mine.

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They are unique abilities of people; whether a neural net can be a person would depend on whether it possesses those abilities. Humans are just the only examples of people that we currently have.

Understanding is not something current neural nets have. They are stochastic parrots.

EDIT: Perhaps I should've said "Humans are the only uncontroversial examples of people that we currently have," but I guess I put too much faith into people to not get sidetracked by irrelevant technicalities. Animals could be considered people by this definition, that's true and says a lot about our anthropocentric society, but that doesn't change the fact that LLMs are not people.

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Things can be beautiful or interesting without being art. The crack in the wall, a naturally occurring landscape are examples of that. You could call them "art" but I think you'd be wrong. That's not a generally accepted meaning of the word.

Actually I'd refine my definition to say that art should be primarily for the purposes of expression and not for any other functional use.

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Even accepting that you're right you've missed the point. To the extent that animals are able to have creativity and understanding, perhaps we should understand them to be "people".

And at any rate, we still don't see this kind of thing from LLMs.

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Okay, so animals can be people too according to my argument. I'm happy to accept that, but the point stands that LLMs don't exhibit this behaviour.

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Yeah, I absolutely agree, and I really did consider saying that humans are the only *uncontroversial examples of people that we have, but I decided not to bog my comment down with too many unnecessary disclaimers. I guess I gave people too much credit there.

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Well if it helps I agree that you can't actually say humans are the only people, I was simplifying to focus on the point. Maybe that was actually a mistake.

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I mean this is exactly it, right? If instead of posting a new job, you canvass the people who applied months ago, then anyone who says yes has been out of work for months and will probably accept whatever shitty wages and conditions you offer. You are guaranteed a strong bargaining position.

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Companies absolutely care about their bottom line. I never said this was a personal attack - in fact it's deeply impersonal. And of course they're more likely to be interested if they haven't found work yet, that's exactly my point.

streaming or torrenting today vs. 5 years ago

I've been a good boy for 5 years or so but the seas call to me. Are streaming sites the way to go now or is torrenting still a better bet for mainstream movies and tv? I'd imagine all of my accounts have been deleted on those sites so I'd be starting over.

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And you can use it for any torrents, like games & software. It's way cheaper than any streaming site and so much more worth it.

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Twitter didn't even want to change its name, that was forced on it by its abusive owner.

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They don't have the right to emancipation though. Like they are literally chattel. Weird how that part of personhood was overlooked, almost like the law was made ad-hoc to give their owners as much power as possible and not according to any real set of principles.

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If it's just for convenience then why were they given the right to speech which also happens to be a right to financial participation in the electoral process? You don't need those things to run a business, but you absolutely can use them to accelerate the corruption of society.

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That's how you know it's a propagandistic lie.

US focused on hunting down Hamas chief Yahya Sinwar, in bid to end Gaza war ( www.middleeasteye.net )

The United States is focused on tracking down Hamas's Gaza chief, Yahya Sinwar, amid a new push by the White House to help Israel declare "total victory" so it can bring an end to the war on Gaza, US officials have told Middle East Eye....

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Are you literally Satan's maggoty cum fart?

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You are Satan's Maggoty Cum Fart, are you not?

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Joke's on me, they were only pretending to be stupid.

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I'm not going to defend her as a person, I'm happy with people not liking her for all sorts of reasons, but calling her not attractive is bizarre. It's the sort of thing that a teenage girl sees and gets insecurities about, because "if she doesn't qualify as attractive then I must be hideous".

Honestly my appreciation of beauty got much better when I realised I was unconsciously judging everyone by every little flaw they had because I had picked up this judgemental devil on my shoulder that was ready to laugh at me if I found the wrong sort of person attractive. I changed my attitude from "where are their flaws?" to "what is their unique beauty?" and suddenly the world was full of beautiful people that I had never noticed before.

And when I get to know someone, the more familiar I get with them and the more I care about them, the more their apparent "flaws" become unique quirks of their beauty that I like.

Personally I have spent very little time looking at or thinking about Taylor Swift, but if you are curious to understand why people might find her attractive, I just did a search for "taylor swift pretty" and I can tell you it wouldn't be difficult to explain it. Let me know.

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I have absolutely no respect for this basic-ass fucking take. It's fine for you not to find someone attractive but to say someone has a "rat face" because you personally don't find them attractive is fucking reprehensible. There is absolutely no reason for you to waste people's time & attention with the things you personally find unattractive, you entitled shitstain.

And if you find this offensive, maybe you shouldn't go around calling people "rat faced" and then you'd have some ground to stand on.

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Oh no, this was great actually. See, you started with the idea that she's "not attractive" and with just the slightest prodding you switched to "rat face; flat body; no curves", showing exactly what sort of vicious cretin goes around attacking women's appearance just because they don't make his dick hard. It's a you problem, not anybody else's, and now when that hypothetical teenage girl comes past this thread and sees your comment, she can scroll down and understand just how fucked you actually are, and maybe she'll realise your validation is not something she should seek.

My comment to you was really for that girl, so she could see it and understand that you have revealed the kind of person you are.

“If a person has ugly thoughts, it begins to show on the face. And when that person has ugly thoughts every day, every week, every year, the face gets uglier and uglier until you can hardly bear to look at it.

A person who has good thoughts cannot ever be ugly. You can have a wonky nose and a crooked mouth and a double chin and stick-out teeth, but if you have good thoughts it will shine out of your face like sunbeams and you will always look lovely.”

― Roald Dahl, The Twits

You are the person with ugly thoughts. You are doomed to be ugly, not because of your "rat face" or whatever else, but because you are the sort of person who calls someone "rat face"d. Another way to say this is, "beauty is in the eye of the beholder". Again, this is not a comment for you, I've given up on you, this is for whoever needs to actually read it. You can get fucked.

Also, just notice how this person has to project an imaginary motivation into my mind in order to ignore what I'm saying, calling me a Swifty even though I already said I don't spend much time thinking about or looking at Taylor Swift. They lied to my face about one of the few things they actually know about me. That's how wrong they are, they can't even handle the few sentences I've written without losing grip on reality.

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Notice how this guy has to keep telling me what's wrong with me so he can't see how I've called out his shitty behaviour. He has no answer for what I've said about him; he just has to make it about me, even though I've explained multiple times now that I actually don't give a shit about Taylor Swift and I'm happy for people not to like her.

His comments aren't for us; they're to keep his fragile ego from crumbling under the weight of actually examining his own behaviour, which is also how he became such a shitty person.

He probably also can't stop replying for exactly that same reason, so I'm going to release him from that by stopping myself. He'll reply, but it's just to get the last word. I would be shocked if it was interesting in any way.

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Oh wow it's really the original desert car, roll-overs and all, huh?

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You heard 'em GET BACK IN THERE

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You're right about the problems, but I wouldn't characterise deregulation as a mistake, it was a calculated plan that achieved its goals which were to benefit capital.

I just think it's important to understand that capitalism is set up to operate this way and will always devolve into barbarism.

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This is going to be important for maintaining the legacy of old video games.

Like, emulators are fine, but access to recompilation makes it much easier to keep things in a generally useful format.

Honestly one of the reasons I don't play emulated games much is that the extra step of configuring and running the emulator is a hassle, and sometimes it straight up doesn't work.

Edit: Anyone who thinks access to the source code is somehow worse than the original executable code, just ask yourself, what is the legacy of say, Doom, for which we have access to the source, versus literally any other closed source game of that era that requires DOSBox to be run? Doom is a meme that "runs on anything" and has a thriving modding community, and it's hard to think of examples of DOSBox games because you never think about them. Source code is important.

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Right, but it's not just pushing a button to get the recompiled code, there's still translation work to be done. Crucially, a framerate will need to be chosen, so you can just choose to base the framerate on the processing done.

Sure, the ROM is "original" but I'd argue that accessing the source code - or an analogue to it - is a more fundamental way of archiving the original, since without that source code we don't have access to how it was originally made.

The point is not that it competes with ROMs or replaces them, but it adds to them and makes the archive that much more complete.

Also for games where emulation doesn't work or isn't practical, recompilation can allow us to maintain games that otherwise couldn't be.

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It was 20 years ago proving they've never been any better and will never learn.

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Also look at the mismatch between the lovely country looking cottage and the rusty corrugated fence. I'm betting it was edited because whatever was in the reflection didn't look very nice and would've made the mirror look awful.

You could say it would... reflect badly on the mirror.

Ahem.

Arizona accuses Amazon of being a monopoly and deceiving consumers with “dark patterns” ( www.theverge.com )

Arizona's Attorney General, Kris Mayes, filed two lawsuits against Amazon on Wednesday for allegedly engaging in deceptive business practices and maintaining monopoly status. The first lawsuit accuses the company of using dark patterns to keep users from canceling their Amazon Prime subscriptions, violating Arizona's Consumer...

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People should definitely learn about these, they affect an awful lot of our modern digital environment, not just in subscriptions but all the ways companies try to manipulate our behaviour.

Ever see a cookie popup and "Accept" is a big colourful button, but if you want to decline it's behind a grey "more options" button, then you have to scroll through a dozen different categories and disable them all, then the button has some ambiguous label like "confirm cookie choices" which gives the impression you're accepting them again? That's a dark pattern.

User interface design has long known how to streamline a process and communicate with a user to increase the number of people who complete a certain task, so it's a simple matter of inverting that logic to make a task hard and obscure to reduce that number.

What's honestly surprising is that this is actually illegal somewhere. I didn't realise there was any legislation about this.

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Wow new nightmare unlocked, thanks for that.

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I honestly think tech hype cycles don't work if people can recognise them as hype cycles.

I think there are a lot of business majors out there with access to a lot of capital and absolutely no technical expertise making decisions about where all the money should go in tech, and experts talking about the limitations of that technology do not reach their ears.

Edit: on reflection I think the hyoe cycles works even if people know it's a cycle, because the investment game here is to pump up the stock, knowing that the bubble is growing, then dump before the bubble bursts. The investment market makes hype cycles happen regardless of whether the tech is vaporware or not, and that's bad for tech in general.

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The Luddites ruled actually:

The Luddites were members of a 19th-century movement of English textile workers who opposed the use of certain types of cost-saving machinery, and often destroyed the machines in clandestine raids. They protested against manufacturers who used machines in "a fraudulent and deceitful manner" to replace the skilled labour of workers and drive down wages by producing inferior goods.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luddite

It's very similar to protesting the use of AI to make an obviously inferior product, but apparently you think it's an insult.

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You are conflating technology and its benefits with the owning class's misuse of that technology. Capitalist apologists love to do this because otherwise the crimes of capitalism would have to stand on their own and there would be no defending them.

It's exactly this conflation that lets people claim that the luddites were entirely anti-technology, but they weren't. Again this is a lie that has been spread by capitalists to defend their own image.

The luddites were killed and suppressed by the military and the government made industrial sabotage a capital offense, and then slandered them. Maybe if they'd won we'd live in a world where reporters weren't murdered over the Panama papers for instance.

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You mean the manifest destiny that was a direct inspiration for lebensraum, the Nazi expansionist policy? That manifest destiny?

I'm sorry I just think it's funny how fast that comparison comes full circle. It's not even a circle, it's a triangle.

I don't know, maybe comparing Israel's genocide to another genocide that is itself comparable to Nazi genocide is somehow not antisemitic, but I doubt people who call people antisemitic over this sort of thing would see it that way.

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If it helps, that's not monkeys inventing capitalism, it's monkeys responding to a system of currency that was enforced on them by scientists. That's a very different thing.

Essentially what they've discovered is an example of the logic of capitalism reproducing itself within those it subjugates.

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If they did it still wouldn't be capitalism. Capitalism isn't just when market, and I don't know why it's important that sex is the thing being offered except to make it sound worse because our society hates sex workers.

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Fair, it just seems like the people using this example are leaning hard into the "prostitution" angle. I didn't mean to imply you were bringing it up because you personally hate sex workers or anything.

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I dunno, you "park" with enough velocity and you could definitely describe the location of the boat as a distribution.

EDIT: When I wrote this comment I tried to imagine how one would do this. Perhaps against a rocky shore, or falling off a trailer on the highway? But then these guys came into my recommendation feed and said, "nah, like this": https://youtu.be/zlFH3aC7Z_c?t=741

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Ask why a historical monument has to rely on advertising dollars to be repaired. Why the kinds of organisations that would put a garish ad billboard over the top are the ones with all the power in our society.

Just because the billboard is funding repairs doesn't mean it's good. It's emblematic of how much is being hoarded by capitalists.

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Basically any member is allowed to edit anyone else's question or answer. The changes may go up before or after review by mods depending on the member's trust level. I've had my questions changed before. It can be kind of annoying but I understand they're doing it to maintain some level of quality.

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No, there are a number of differences. There's questions & answers under which there are comments, and a bunch of other functionality. It's so different to a standard threaded forum that you may as well build a new system from scratch. I honestly think it would be less work than trying to shoehorn lemmy into this role, and have another fediverse ecosystem built around it.

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