spujb ,

i donā€™t think that this article had to be titled in such a divisive manner

i get what They are saying but it so poorly relates to the subject of the text that i was lost and confused for the first half of reading it

edit: fixed pronouns

spujb ,

upon further thought i think this article would be better framed as a psa:

you should feel comfortable asking your long term committed partner their legal name (or being told/finding out organically), and itā€™s not toxic to do so.

there are plenty of reasons you might want to know such as:

  • filing a missing person report in an emergency
  • visiting your partner in the hospital in an emergency
  • bailing them from jail
  • add them as a beneficiary on insurance and things
  • seeking legal advice in case of a dispute (as noted in the article)
  • notifying authorities when you or others may be endangered by an abusive partner (as noted in the article)

all of this is a totally valid reason to know your partner on that level, and no, this doesnā€™t mean ā€œtrans people are above the law.ā€ i do appreciate the struggle that brought Them to express it so, but i kind of hate that OOP framed it in such a fraught manner.

Cassa ,
@Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

So in the case of well meaning laws and judicial systems, there is a protection from harm in the system.

Problem is, that still isnā€™t a good way of protecting from harm, and more about getting money for harm already done. (as exampled in the article.)

If your ex is abusing you and you donā€™t know their legal name, then it shouldnā€™t matter. You know their name - you know to tell people. and if youā€™re thinking of suing them, I imagine a few steps before that would be informing the people in your community.

I donā€™t know a perfect solution to stop abuse, or similar things, but not knowing legal names, is not going to make an actual difference.

ReveredOxygen ,
@ReveredOxygen@sh.itjust.works avatar

So their complaint is that they canā€™t threaten legal action on someone whose legal name they donā€™t know? Shocking

rxin ,

Iā€™m surprised one wouldnā€™t know the legal name of their partner, even if trans. Anything formal requires a real name, there wasnā€™t a single case I was able to get to know someone without revealing my formal name in one way or another.

SkyezOpen ,

Also is it actually normal to be in a relationship and not know your partnerā€™s legal name?

Kit ,

My neopronouns are capitalised, as in Me, You, and They instead of me, you, and they

Why? Tried Googling this and came up empty handed.

Juno ,

They donā€™t follow their own odd rules in the other editorials they wrote.

See: ā€œourā€ ā€œusā€ ā€œyouā€ ??? ā€œThe point of the video is that if a conservative is nice to you, youā€™re being groomed. According to Ian and this Xitter user, Nazis will go around social media debating leftists, intentionally hurting our feelings to make us pay attention, and then turning around and being nice to recruit us. Thatā€™s pretty much the whole point of the video. And I donā€™t doubt that this happened to that Xitter user. Iā€™m very willing to believe that there are groups of nazis who prey on people like this.ā€

Iā€™m not trying to bother someone, but they come out the gate very combative assuming everyone is going to intentionally be a bigoted piece of crap.

As far as the article, I donā€™t think I could be with someone who would literally never tell me their legal name.

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