rsuri ,

We create concepts like soup because they're useful, not because such concepts represent the true underlying state of the universe. So whether a cereal is a soup depends on the reason you care about soups.

massivefailure ,

No, soups are cereals.

bitwaba ,

No. Cereals are grasses cultivated for their edible grain: wheat, rye, barley, rice, etc.

Cereals are served with milk. Cereal is not the dish containing milk

guyrocket ,
@guyrocket@kbin.social avatar

Is a tree stump a chair?

Semantics is the FUN way to question reality.

Cybermonk_Taiji OP ,

Are you sitting on it? Could it be sat upon?

Chair confirmed.

rachthegoldberg ,

a very philosophical question. Like the age old "Are hot dogs sandwiches?" debate

Cybermonk_Taiji OP ,

I argue that a hotdog is not a sandwich and the bun is not split through entirely and it is generally presented with the bread to the sides putting it into the roll category. A sandwich has bread spilt entirely through and uses horizontal stacking for assembly

AnalogyAddict ,

You mean like a sub sandwich?

nuggsy ,
@nuggsy@lemmy.world avatar

In all fairness, I only know them as subs mainly because of Subway. Before that, I probably would have considered it a roll.

But I am Australian

Kufflebuns ,
shinigamiookamiryuu ,

For those of us who can't drink milk, it would have no choice but to be.

DestroyerOfWorlds ,
@DestroyerOfWorlds@sh.itjust.works avatar

It's chowder

Frank_weens ,

I'd say it is a soup, but I'd also say a smoothie is a soup too.

GeneralEmergency ,

Unless you're putting the milk and cereal into a blender. No. Cereal and milk isn't soup.

Usernameblankface , (edited )
@Usernameblankface@lemmy.world avatar

It's a non-traditional soup usually served cold.

Edit to add logic. There are plenty of milk-based soups, and I don't think that baking ingredients ahead of time and adding them cold changes the dish from being a soup. Maybe we're missing out on some delicious hot soup leaving cereal cold?

It's weird soup, but soup nonetheless.

Delphia ,

On cold mornings I know people who heat up the milk.

janNatan ,

I would argue cereal is cold porridge.

cowfodder ,

According to the cube rule it's nachos.

https://cuberule.com/

DarkThoughts ,

Why would it be? Soup is made primarily out of vegetables and typically served hot. Honestly, why not just look up "Soup" on Wikipedia or a dictionary.

Usernameblankface ,
@Usernameblankface@lemmy.world avatar

Be vegetables aren't a defined thing. One marketing push and all of a sudden cereal is technically a vegetable.

DarkThoughts ,

Uh, no. Vegetables are a defined thing, specifically for culinary purposes.

Usernameblankface ,
@Usernameblankface@lemmy.world avatar

Defined how? They're a grouping of roots, fruits, leaves, and tubers.

DarkThoughts ,

Through their culinary use in the kitchen. But you're just here arguing about semantics anyway.

Usernameblankface ,
@Usernameblankface@lemmy.world avatar

I realized that I definitely wandered beyond the topic at hand. OP's whole idea is to argue a culinary term, and "vegetable" is a culinary term.

sushibowl ,

But you're just here arguing about semantics anyway.

Well duh, this is a post about the meaning of soup. We're all here arguing semantics. Anyway, if you can justify the meaning of "vegetable" by its culinary use in the kitchen, then we might as well shortcut this chain of thinking and use that argument directly for soup.

Clearly cereal is not a soup, going by its culinary use in the kitchen.

trolololol ,

Wait, grains and beans and seeds too.

Btw I have an avocado pit, let me think how to make vegetarian soup with it. Got any recipes??

Num10ck ,

wow wheat is actually a fruit! TIL

Susaga ,
@Susaga@sh.itjust.works avatar

You know, I was originally on team "yes", but this changed my mind.

Apeman42 ,
@Apeman42@lemmy.world avatar

Chowder. Gazpacho.

shininghero ,

Needs more vegetables, meat, and salt to be a soup. But by that logic, you could call the ocean a soup.

ccunning ,

vegetables, meat, and salt

I knew vegetarian soup was bullshit!

mom ,
@mom@nom.mom avatar

It's tea. Or maybe a cold soup, in the way that a taco is a sandwich.

https://nom.mom/pictrs/image/459e505c-47ba-4231-87bf-efd35c2bb88d.jpeg

(Preparation and ingredient rebels can make anything tea.)

dingus ,

I love this. Gonna drink my clogged gutter water tea tonight. 😊

enjoytemple ,
@enjoytemple@kbin.social avatar

I mean if we go further that way then a swimming pool is also a soup.

musicmind333 ,

@enjoytemple @Cybermonk_Taiji if it's a toddler swimming class and there's a bunch of babies wearing diapers, does it make it a dumpling soup?

enjoytemple ,
@enjoytemple@kbin.social avatar

Dumplings from time to time bring their own (pool) noodles too.

bitwaba ,

"a hot tub is just people soup"

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