Do you even know what communism actually is? I mean do you know where it came from, and why?
If you're 17 and in America, there isn't a lot of hope that you have been told about this in a non-biased manner. Young people especially are susceptible to the ideology that they can make it in life through hard work and equal opportunities. You might even already have felt some success in this regard, was able to achieve a goal because you worked for it. And it all makes sense to you.
And you think, In some way or another, that communist are perverting this, maybe by giving away shit for nothing or worse want to take shit from you.
But that's not true.
Socialism wants you to fully get your complete value of your labour for you, instead of most of it going to a boss who didn't work. And communist want to make sure that the system doesn't allow for bosses to make decisions about the conditions workers live in.
You're blaming communism for what is, like everything else, a people problem. It doesn't matter what system you're talking about, there's always bad actors and horrible people that you can point to and say "see? That's why it's bad!"
Also, you are 17 and only really have the knowledge that you have been taught, and minimal experience living in the larger world. Most everything far you have learned has been what others have wanted you to learn. Once you get into the real world for a decade or two and start experiencing a full life, your views will change.
Or you can resign yourself to a life in front of cable news and stay firmly locked into an opinion that others have given you.
I know but I don't care. Communism have pro and cons like other system. But it's slightly better than other if it executed correctly. That's all I know. Please don't ban me
Oh, there's definitely a ton of communist propaganda, did you block .ml?
Do you consider anarchism/democratic socialism to not be communist at a certain level, ie, consider "communist" thought only to include authoritarian Marxism?
Nobody has ever actually done real communism on a national scale. The closest is probably the USSR, but that was a disaster because it was an authoritarian dictatorship that funneled money and power to the top. People only got token representation, the people were not actually in charge of anything, they got no real say in their leadership. Doesn’t matter that it was structured like communism says it should be, the reality of it was anything but communism.
Real communism would probably be pretty decent. There wouldn’t be too much to hate about it other than what you’d dislike in any government.
The problem is the humans running it. It’s a constant battle against power-hungry and self-serving people being in charge, just like any government, and no nation espousing communism has ever managed to prevent authoritarianism and basic kleptocratic people from settling in and running the show.
I am not for communism or here to espouse any virtues it might have. The concept of communism certainly has appeal and presents many benefits, however the reality of implementation and human nature virtually guarantee it will never achieve its intended form.
People are shaped by their environment, people seem greedy and selfish because of Capitalism. Primitive communism existed for thousands of years, and people were cooperative and communal.
Why do you believe selfish and greedy people existing in Communism would strain or ruin it?
Primitive communism existed for thousands of years
This is fundamentally flawed. You can't compare primitive societies to modern states. The reason communism worked in primitive societies is the same reason communism works in families. It's not something that can just be expanded to thousands of millions of people who don't know each other
Your endocrine system hasn't even let go of the controls in your brain yet. Don't let a guy who is so prone to substance abuse make important decisions. Once the night shift takes over a lot of your "airtight and very clever" philosophies will seem simple, trite and one dimensional.
One day you'll be in the shower getting ready to start your day. Nothing particularly significant will have occurred to you the day before, but the "perspective shift" happens and all of a sudden, you won't know why you ever felt the way you used to. Scary as shit, comes out of the blue, and definitely doesn't happen to us all. But it's a cool achievement to unlock and lets you respec for a conceptualization bonus.
If that does happen, I hope you remember this thread and have replay. See if you are still the same you as you were.
I don't think that's necessarily true. Tons of young people are communists. OP being politically illiterate doesn't have to be for their age, though that's likely part of it.
And as people have mentioned here, it can take until you're in your 40s for some to finally escape all the anticommunist propaganda they've been fed their whole lives in capitalist states.
I dislike communism but most communists actually obsess over things that matter due to having terminally Kantian thought processes. I'd rather post in an environment like that than one filled with barely sentient slop consumers who just believe things