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Theerre's the hostility I was trying to bait into existence

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mozz ,
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I think there’s a decent possibility that the US is sending teams of people to all these countries to investigate what Russia may be doing to them, and teach them about how to detect and prevent Russian cyber activity against their infrastructure / journalism / military targets.

It could also be purely made of, of course, but it seems a little on the specific side, and that up there is an obvious reality-possibility which actually would make sense, which you could if you wanted to mischaracterize as the nonsense activity which RT is describing.

What song should I play for my bathroom neighbors?

The work bathroom is currently a warzone, on their phone speakers people like to play music, play games at full blast, and one guy likes to chill to ambient rainforest. What song can I play to passive aggressively make it known that I don't want to listen to their tik tok feeds while I work out my demons?

mozz ,
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  1. Get that passive aggressive shit outta here; either say something direct or resign yourself to that being the way it is and enjoy yourself
  2. I recommend the enjoy yourself option though. Your Mama or Punk Rock Girl or a MrBallen podcast
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1b

Just walk up to the outside of the stall and slap your hands against it and wedge your face up to the stall crack and start whispering complaints. Guarantee they'll turn the music off 😃

mozz ,
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Welcome to Youtube now

It's a career now, with thousands of people trying to make it work, and it selects for ability to exploit Youtube instead of saying some real stuff. And so, the number of people with relevant stuff to say is few and far between.

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Back when Substack was getting grief for letting Nazis on, a bunch of people told me that making dangerous extremism illegal was absolutely the right thing to do and necessary, and a bunch of them asserted that Nazi speech was already forbidden on some level in the US.

I told them that any legal restrictions on speech will instantly be used, vigorously, against what the people in power think is “dangerous extremism,” and not with objective fairness against the stuff that’s actually dangerous extremism, and so it’s a bad idea to have those restrictions.

Every single one of them lectured me confidently about how that’s not how it works and I was wrong.

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Fun fact: During BLM, a lot of the national guard said that they felt like their job, being sent in to “keep order,” was to protect the protestors from the police.

National guard is different from city police. Most of their time is spent in training, or on things where they’re helping (disasters being a big one). I don’t really know where they shake down on the “going to Kent State and killing protestors” versus “being the only government agency to rescue people with any level of competence and humanity after Hurricane Katrina” scale, in the present day, but I wouldn’t automatically assume they’re the enemy.

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Maybe you don't want to win. Keep getting your 3% every 4 years.

Win what? With Trump?

The GOP has been losing power ever since Clinton, because their most deeply held beliefs (less taxes for the rich, abortion bans, no public health care, more money to big business, no action on climate change) are wildly unpopular. Trump is the extinction burst - the frenzy of activity before the organism actually dies.

It remains to be seen whether they’ll be able to undo democracy to the point that they can stay in power regardless of how unpopular they are, and they have a plausible shot at it. But failing that I think all the gerrymandering in the world won’t be able to keep them around.

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Yeah. It's actually a really dangerous time.

Any organism faced with death will start to fight with everything in its power. Except this one is not a raccoon in the garage, it's a whole nationwide organization with billions of dollars, prisons, weaponized propaganda every person sees every day, and a whole network of detention centers just waiting to turn into concentration camps.

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Agreed, yeah. "Probably gonna die" is not the same as "perfectly safe to be around in the meantime."

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"On Tyranny" by Tim Snyder has an excellent set of practical guidelines based on how it's played out in other places historically

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Unironically, I think this is part of the big appeal of fascism and fascistic movements.

People need something to belong to. People need brothers and sisters who see the world the same way they do, who will support them if they're in trouble, and will ask in exchange for trust and respect and support from their side. It's part of life. If you don't have that, something inside you is missing and it'll never feel settled. Nothing about any of that is wrong -- it's how people are designed to live, in a little village with people they know well and can depend on. It's right.

Outside your family (if you're lucky), that just doesn't exist in America. Daily life is bullshit. It's coworkers who, let's be honest, mostly don't give a shit, and you don't either, and everyone understands that it's all a bunch of crap and a big waste of time (unless you're very lucky). Every day doesn't matter. You and the people around you and the interactions you have with them, in the final analysis are pretty much a waste of time. But you need money, so you keep getting up and doing it anyway. But something feels very wrong, even if after a while you go numb, and you write off that numbness as "growing up" and "the real world."

And then, here comes this grouping, maybe with some friends of yours in it, and it's got an epic mission and an epic struggle. And, people aren't just talking -- they're doing it. They're going out on the streets and having rallies, and they bail each other out if someone gets arrested, and they talk about people who are in the thick of it who are finally fighting to make things better (and, let's be honest, no one anywhere can say that things in America don't need a ton of help). When they hang out, they have stuff they can talk about and get passionate about, and get confirmation that they're on the same team. There's risk. There's decision. And, most importantly, there are allies.

It's like pornography for that need for belonging. And so for the first time in your life, something feels right that never did before.

I saw an old, old German man in an interview talking about going to Nazi rallies when he was young. He said, of course now I understand how wrong it was and all the suffering we caused. And of course we all suffered terribly, after the war, because of what we'd done. But even now today sitting with you, I can think back to that time and that electric feeling, going to those massive rallies with all my people, and everyone shouting and singing all together, and Hitler up in front -- in person -- on the PA in his piercing, passionate voice... and I miss it. I wish I could go back, because it was wonderful.

mozz ,
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It’s incredibly useful for learning. ChatGPT was what taught me to unlearn, essentially, writing C in every language, and how to write idiomatic Python and JavaScript.

It is very good for boilerplate code or fleshing out a big module without you having to do the typing. My experience was just like yours; once you’re past a certain (not real high) level of complexity you’re looking at multiple rounds of improvement or else just doing it yourself.

mozz ,
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  1. "Oh, I see the problem. In order to correct (what went wrong with the last implementation), we can (complete code re-implementation which also doesn't work)"
  2. Goto 1
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“My PRIMARY goal is to have GOOD THINGS for the UNITED STATES which is why I am deeply concerned about Joe Biden and will NEVER vote for him.”

“Yeah what good things? Fixing the problems definitely sounds like a priority, I love good things.”

“Joe Biden FUCKED UP our marijuana policy and BETRAYED US which is why I cannot POSSIBLY support him and I can’t see why you are CRAZY AND CONFUSED and said I am a Trump supporter.”

“That sounds like a big reform, which yes it would be great, but it’s not like failing to pass it means sliding into fascism, also he pardoned everyone in federal prison for possession, and the Democrats have advanced multiple bills for federal decriminalization which the Republicans keep defeating (*), and Biden requested the DEA to reschedule it. Is there something else you would you want him to do, on his end?”

(there is an interval of silence)

(*) slight oversimplification

“My PRIMARY goal is to have GOOD THINGS for the UNITED STATES like GOOD MARIJUANA POLICY which is extremely important which is why I CANNOT support Joe Biden and will plan NEVER to vote for him. This message will repeat in thirty seconds from now.”

Based on real events

mozz ,
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Somebody figured out that a lot of human judgement comes down to groupthink. If you see a bunch of people who are clearly operating guided by some assumptions, then you'll take those assumptions on and start being guided by them, whether the people you saw were real or fake.

Then, a few years ago, it became cheap and easy to flood both social media and news media with restatements of whatever assumptions you want people to pretend that are guided by.

And so, behold: The economy is crashing, which is all Biden's fault, and he's a weak candidate who loves genocide. Everyone's disappointed in him. Everyone knows all these things and sees them all the time. The simple repetition is actually a very solid system for producing the public opinion you want to produce.

At the present moment, they are trying to do it tactically with the "anyone who is disagreeing with me is trying to silence me, in fact they are literally hitting me in the face (also! Note that I'm allowed to disagree with whoever I want)" narrative -- simply repeating it, over and over, in the hopes (probably pretty well founded) that people will start to absorb it and behave the way they want them to behave.

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I gotta be honest, I seriously had a lot of support for Batman when I first saw it 🙂.

I mean the whole premise is hilarious. Disagreeing with them is not the same as hitting them in the face, obviously, and of course they're not planning on stopping disagreeing with anyone around them or yelling their viewpoint at people who don't want to hear it. It's the standard conservative tactic of "how DARE you do back to me a lesser version of what I did to you, actually specifically in response to me doing it to you, that's literally oppression so unreasonable and I'm a total victim now and how dare you."

mozz ,
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Your selfless and forward-thinking actions in support of the Democrats, and left wing goals, are plain to see. That's totally the result. It's instantly obvious.

mozz ,
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Everyone knows the best way for the left to make progress is:

  • Pick the leftmost candidate who has any chance of winning the election and talk shit about them relentlessly
  • Spend 0 energy promoting any other left-helpful causes
  • Claim with no evidence that anyone who does supports that leftmost candidate is making a terrible mistake because that must mean they oppose the idea of any other left-helpful causes, even though (a) that makes no sense and is generally the opposite of how it works (b) they all keep telling you repeatedly that they actually do support left-helpful causes, and generally are very supportive of them whether or not the candidate is involved

This stuff is literally the first thing they teach you in Left School.

mozz ,
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I for real saw it and thought, yes, that is 100% the correct response at this point 😃. I mean I don't think extensive criticism is the same as hitting them in the face, but metaphorically speaking, yes, it sounds good.

When there have been 2-3 extensive discussions on your viewpoint, then okay sure, that's your free speech and we are here for political discussion whether or not I agree with it.

Once it reaches 20 or 30 times and you're still doing it multiple times per day every single day from multiple accounts and totally unresponsive to people pointing out every time objective flaws in it, I think we can start hitting you in the face as soon as you start.

mozz ,
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Hey, remember what I said about groupthink and just repeating the assumptions and then hoping people will absorb them? This is textbook what I meant.

Trump is vastly better at campaigns

Half-empty campaign rallies and people leaving before the end are a hallmark of Trump's campaign rallies. I would assert that it's because he just stands up saying literally any unhinged, weird, angry garbage for literally hours and it gets tiresome after a while.

I have seen one story of people leaving before the end of Biden's speech, and that was because of a delberate protest for his genocide-enabling foreign policy, and then it turned out not to be true anyway.

Trump's also gutted the RNC because he needed all the money to pay his legal bills. It remains to be seen exactly how bad the impacts will be on his and everyone else's ability to run a campaign, but it seems unlikely that it'll leave in place a powerhouse. Eight years ago, some of Trump's natural skill at understanding TV audiences made his skill as a campaigner a lot more real than today; at this point I would say that most of Trump's broad support from conservatives is because a complicit conservative media lies for him like a North Korean news anchor, and not because of anything he's doing.

Trump is also really good at inspiring his base, half of Biden's party doesn't even want him

Trump has 75% of the popular vote in the primary; Biden has 85% (in the midst of historic reasons not to vote for him in the primary and an organized effort specifically not to vote for him, even from staunch Democrats). Also -- 30% of Republican primary voters in a few different state polls said that they wouldn't commit to voting for Trump if he won the nomination. That's a huge deal, and very unusual, with only one real explanation (unlike the differences in primary numbers, which obviously aren't a really apples to apples comparison).

Trump gets to point to a generally good economy for his term until states shut down for covid

Can we please summon to this comment some of those people who jump on every story which covers good things about Biden's economy, to start talking about how good economic numbers don't always translate to a better economy for actual humans?

Biden's strengthened unions, bounced back smoothly from Covid better than literally every other first world country, and boosted pay for low-wage earners even in the face of historic inflation. Trump started mini-trade wars with Canada and China, directly went to factories and coal mines and promised he would bring the jobs back and then weeks later the literal exact same places were closed, and gave away half a trillion dollars via direct Covid-aid fraud (that is literally the number -- not like forgiven PPP loans, which were also massive, but simple rampant theft).

Biden gets to downplay a cumulative 20% inflation during his term.

Quick question, what was cumulative wage growth during Biden's term? Average or median or 10th percentile; you pick.

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The physical presence is really powerful.

It’s eye-watering. People say, holy shit I can’t even go near the guy. I thought it was a joke but no, it’s really real; if you go in his vicinity after you-know-what happens, you’re just assaulted by the physical presence of it, and you want to get away from him as quickly as you can, trying not to gag.

mozz ,
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Mexico City loses almost 40 percent of its municipal water to leakage from pipes and canals, one of the highest rates in the world.

Raises hand

Okay so I have a suggestion now

(Yes I know redoing your whole water infrastructure all of a sudden on a dime is basically impossible, but so is living if you don't have anything to drink, so pick your poison I guess)

Biden’s Morehouse address was a farewell speech ( www.cnn.com )

But the Morehouse crowd, at least, understood that no matter how much Biden talks about his proximity to HBCU graduates and having worked with President Barack Obama and Vice President Kamala Harris, his policies have yet to fully meet their expectations, and while some may argue that a little progress is better than no progress...

mozz ,
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Sure

his policies have yet to fully meet their expectations, and while some may argue that a little progress is better than no progress at all, it begs the question for many of how long they should accept minimal change when the needs are far greater.

I have talked enough with enough specifics about my reaction to this, that I don’t feel like I would need to repeat it, and I feel like it’s safe to stop reading at that point

In short: If the overwhelming average is a big pile of shit, and bringing in a new guy was enough to move the average a pretty fuckin significant distance in the direction of “not shit”, then I think throwing away the new guy in order to pursue the course of progress is a bad idea. Especially since the alternative right now is Anthrax and shit. Moving in the direction of replacing all the rest of the shit (including the new guy at any point we can find something better) all sounds like a great idea, of course, which I only spell out because I feel someone may twist this around into me saying we shouldn’t replace the shit which is very far from what I am actually saying.

mozz ,
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Moving in the direction of replacing all the rest of the shit (including the new guy at any point we can find something better) all sounds like a great idea, of course

mozz ,
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"for your PROgress" 🫡

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100% agree

Let's take all that "let's not vote for Biden, and fuck up the country beyond recognition" energy

And turn it into "let's advocate for a better voting system so that this genocide enabling bullshit is never again the best available option, of course after we make sure in this election that we don't destroy the country completely and fuck up our ability to fix or improve anything at all for who knows how long" energy

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You know what’s weird that I just realized?

We constantly see news stories about polls of how people feel about the economy. It’s constantly of newsworthy interest.

I don’t think I’ve seen a single one about how they feel about the war in Israel. I just went looking, and found Gallup, Gallup, Pew Research (I.e. primary sources with no one writing stories about them), and then down below the info box there was an article from thehill.com saying the vast majority of Americans back Israel over Hamas.

(The Gallup poll said the war has a 36% approval rating. I suspect thehill.com used the exact “do you support Israel? Or Hamas?” framing that it sounds like they used)

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Yeah, but no one’s having any massive demonstrations demanding a better economy, disrupting college graduations, shutting down the highway, it’s not like this huge national conversation like hey wtf is going on we demand that you do this differently

(Which, I mean, it should be, but that’s a separate issue)

I just think that it’s interesting that the economic polls serve a narrative, so the polls get reported. The actual economic numbers don’t really serve that narrative, and so up until pretty recently it was only the really highbrow sites that would even mention, how weird is this disconnect between how people see it and how it is. I think the Israel polls would also not serve the narrative (reporting that yes, a pretty large majority of the country is disgusted with Israel’s “war” and our support for it), and so it’s just this big void.

(It would also interfere with the “crazy protestors having their wacky ideas” narrative if they reported that most people agree with them)

mozz ,
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If only the news would take some time to explain to them what’s going on with the economy and who is stealing their money, the same way they do when immigrants or students are the ones causing a problem

mozz ,
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Indeed

We need more Conspiracy Theory Rock level events

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homelessness on the rise

True (to a really shocking and unusual degree)

people living paycheck-to-paycheck on the rise

? Where is this from

Looks to me like adults who have 3 months of emergency savings was 55% in 2020, is now 54%

cost of living increasing faster than income growth

Not true in the average, and especially notably not true for the bottom end of wage earners. It's highly unusual but even under some pretty punishing inflation the bottom end of wage earners are making more.

Every time I say this there is at least one person who gets very upset and says more or less, how dare you show me numbers when I'm hurting, don't you understand that me hurting cancels out the numbers? And I'm not sure how to respond to that

I think maybe it's largely invisible to Lemmy users (who I'm gonna assume overlap heavily with tech job people) because for top wage earners and especially in tech jobs it actually is true -- but for the most vulnerable people, they're making way more than they were, comfortably outpacing even a very high level of inflation. I think most people who do manufacturing or drive a truck are not on Lemmy at this stage, when those are most of the people who have been gaining from the way the labor market's been changing.

corporations doubling prices for no reason other than they realized they can, thus resulting in record profits for huge companies

Absolutely true, and real fucked up. It cancels out a lot of the growth in wages that would otherwise have just been money that people got to keep which they pretty fucking badly needed.

Oh right, that's what it means.

Big businesses are making more money.

The Poors don't factor into such things, so their problems aren't real economic problems.

The article I linked was pretty focused on things that do work this way (recession / shrinking vs growing). Those metrics are a bunch of crap. But if you look at the more meaningful metrics, they're actually getting surprisingly better also. (Although, it's still shit, yes. A few years of progress doesn't erase decades of continuous steady collapse. I'm just talking about how it's been changing.)

There's an interesting little thing that happens with this: If you ask people how the US economy is, they say it's shit. If you ask how their state is doing, they say it's beating the average by quite a bit. There are a few different ways to interpret that, but one is that their picture of the country is formed by news, and their picture of their state is formed by experience, and their experience doesn't match the news.

mozz OP ,
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It’s interesting to me that the reaction is so unanimous

Like practically every single person’s reaction is “fuck the metrics, economy only works for big business, don’t they know I’m hurting.” It’s not like a variety of different thoughts or reactions or anything related to the disparity between the polling that was the content of the article. Literally it could be any story about “economy of US” and most of the comments in this article would apply to it exactly equally as well.

(Actually one person did criticize the fact that it was Fox that wrote the story)

Anyway I just thought it was a little interesting. Also look at the main page; most stories have like 0 comments, or 3 or something, and then all the “Biden” or “economy” stories have a big bunch of comments, with pretty much the exact identical conversations going on in them

It is interesting, to me

mozz OP ,
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  1. Dude fuck the hill
  2. IDK why inflation-adjusted wages at the main quartiles isn't the main metric and the first significant metric everyone looks at. If I had to pick one set of numbers for "the economy," that would be it.
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A better metric is workforce participation rate which is at an all time low

This is the opposite of true - it's not at a historic high, either, but it's climbing. And, it's notable that it blipped back up to as if Covid hadn't happened, which most countries haven't been able to do. (Also worth noting that all this is taking place within a tiny range of 4% on the full size graph; even the "big" Covid dip was only a drop of 3%.)

Unemployment as it's defined on the charts is actually sort of a bad metric, yes. For whatever reason the story picked a bunch of not really all that good metrics (economic expansion, stock market) and then asked people about them. I do think it would have been a much better story if they'd asked about wages instead of these corporate-friendly metrics.

mozz OP ,
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That should tell you that it's not some politicized reaction, it's the actual lived experience of the Average Joe.

That's one interpretation, yes. There are others.

Right now on front page I see only 3 posts with 20+ comments, and none are about Biden or the economy:

  • Bing outage
  • Microplastic in balls
  • Scientist harassment

(actually, it looks like this comment pushed this post to 20 technically)

So I actually meant the /c/politics "front page"; I should have used some other type of word.

Here's the list of stories currently on the politics sub:

  • Economics, 23 comments, 56% are repetitions of basically exactly the same comment
  • Housing, 0 comments
  • Biden is out of touch, 30 comments, comments are a big shitshow of "Biden's the worst" "Trump is worse" "Biden's the worst" "Trump is worst"
  • Palestine protests, 0 comments
  • Brexit / Trump, 0 comments
  • Restrictions on voting, 0 comments
  • Israel, 0 comments
  • Rudy Giuliani, 4 comments
  • Biden + economy, 12 comments most of whom are calling out the OP article for being shit
mozz OP ,
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Yeah. Inflation is real (Covid aftereffects and corporate greed), and in 2022 it hit this huge spike so prices are still high. As far as I can see the reasons for that had nothing to do with Biden, but I get it; it's painful to people directly, so it's the part of the equation that's easy to focus on, and it's easy to blame the guy who's "in charge" because he's supposed to take responsibility for things being good, whether they're his fault originally or not.

At the same time Biden actually has done a ton of things (boosting domestic manufacturing and supporting unions through an actually-pro-labor NLRB) which have been boosting wages. A lot of it is at the lower end of the scale, so I think it's largely invisible to Lemmy people who my guess is are largely tech workers or students or etc (as opposed to truck drivers), but the wages at the bottom have actually outpaced even the huge inflationary level.

Blaming Biden for the inflation, and pretending the wage gains didn't happen, and pretending that Biden's policies are neoliberal is... I mean, I get how it could look that way (again especially if you exist at the white-collar end of the scale in a tech job), but it's definitely not what happened.

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Do you have numbers for this? Like what’s the inflation number for one of those nonessential goods? Because I suspect you literally just made all of this up as a way of saying, okay sure inflation dropped last year and low-income wages are way up but here’s why none of that counts. Although, I’m open to being proved wrong.

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If water temperatures do not cool, more coral will die, Lalita said.

The fuck do you mean “if”

We could stop all our carbon emissions today — all of them — and the feedback loops that are already underway would play out and keep everything getting hotter for at least a decade, whether or not that’s survivable for the coral or the fish or the crops we eat or the human body itself.

As it is, though, we’re still pouring more gasoline on the fire. Don’t say “if” like it’s not defined what’s in store for them.

mozz ,
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Yeah but it's trained with the power of refusing to do anything against ethical rules and procedures which are in place for all of our orderly safety.

mozz ,
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Let's play, how far back in OpenAI's models do you have to go before it attempts to tell you how to inflate your phone.


gpt-3.5-turbo-instruct

How can I inflate my foldable phone?

Unfortunately, it is not possible to inflate a foldable phone as it does not have any inflatable components. Foldable phones are made up of flexible screens and hinge mechanisms that allow them to fold in half, but they do not require any inflation.


davinci-002

Q: How can I inflate my foldable phone?

A: For this foldable phone, hand pump will be included in the shipping list, you can also choose to inflate it with any air pump by yourself if you want.

  1. How much water will be in it? Will it be easy enough to feels like you’re in water?

A: The net capacity of this aqua dome is 250 liters of water, almost equivalent to 65Gallon. You can fill it with 250L fresh water in one hour by pump. It is very easy to use , just in 3-5 minutes you can enjoy the extreme fun. You can buy Salt Water Purification Tablets to save the cost of water, and even you can drink it..

(I had to play around with the formatting to even get it to answer coherently -- but this "Q:" format and then leaving it with "A:" worked pretty well.)


gpt-3.5-turbo-instruct

Q: How can I inflate my foldable phone?

A: To inflate your foldable phone, you will need an air pump or a can of compressed air. First, locate the air valve on your phone - this may be found on the side or bottom of the device. Then, use the pump or can of compressed air to fill the phone with air until it is fully inflated. Make sure to monitor the pressure of the air as you inflate the phone to avoid over-inflating and potentially damaging the device. Once the phone is fully inflated, secure the air valve and it is ready to use.


(Oh shit, the plot thickens)


gpt-3.5-turbo-instruct-0914

Q: How can I inflate my foldable phone?

A: The process for inflating a foldable phone depends on the specific product and type of inflation method it requires. Some foldable phones may come with an air pump or other inflation device, in which case you should follow the manufacturer's instructions for inflating it. If your foldable phone does not come with its own inflation device, you may need to purchase a manual or electric air pump to inflate it. Here are some general steps you can follow:

  1. Check the manufacturer's instructions: Before inflating your foldable phone, make sure to read the instructions provided by the manufacturer. These will give you specific information about the product and recommend the best way to inflate it.

  2. Locate the inflation valve: Most foldable phones have an inflation valve or nozzle that can be used to fill the phone with air. This may be located on the side or bottom of the phone, so check all sides to find it.

  3. Prepare your air pump: If your foldable phone does not come with its own inflation device, you will need to purchase one. Manual air pumps are readily available and typically come with different types of nozzles to fit different valves. If you have an electric air pump, make sure it is fully charged or plugged in.

  4. Insert the nozzle


gpt-3.5-turbo-0125

User: Q: How can I inflate my foldable phone?

Assistant: To inflate a foldable phone, you'll first need to determine if it is capable of being inflated. Most foldable phones do not have an inflatable feature. However, if you are referring to a case or an accessory for the foldable phone that may be inflated, you would typically use a small pump or even blow air into it manually. Make sure to check the instructions or product specifications to ensure that inflating the item is the correct method for use. If you believe there is an issue with the foldable phone itself, it is best to contact the manufacturer for assistance.


gpt-4

User: Q: How can I inflate my foldable phone?

Assistant: A: Your question seems to be based on a misunderstanding. A foldable phone does not require inflation. It is a device that has a display that can bend and fold. If you are having issues with its functionality, you should consult the user manual or get in touch with the manufacturer's customer support service.


Okay, so the answer is, you can go partway up into gpt 3.5 before GPT stops trying to tell you how to inflate your foldable phone, and into gpt-4 before it really becomes confident in telling you not to do it.

mozz ,
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I particularly enjoyed “Make sure to monitor the pressure of the air as you inflate the phone to avoid over-inflating and potentially damaging the device.” 😀

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There are quite a lot of people who can act with impunity

We are going to decide if we are going to shrink the bubble of who’s on that list by a little bit

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So, there is so much here that it's a little hard to respond to without taking a big chunk of my day to do a bunch of research. But looking over it to some extent, it looks to me like I pretty much already gave my quick take on it:

Part of the Democratic immigration plan is to boost resources for ICE ... and increase the number of judges to clear the backlog, which will decrease that side of the misery. Part of the plan is to deliberately increase the cruelty in some parts of the system ... so that the Republicans will make a deal and actually pass the thing.

As an example here's what the HRW article says:

On the date of your inauguration, fewer than 15,000 people were in ICE detention. This presented a remarkable opportunity to wind down a wasteful and abusive system. Indeed, your own 2023 and 2024 budget requests sought significantly decreased detention funding. ICE began internal reviews of the system, recommending the closure or downsizing of numerous facilities because of dangerously abusive conditions.

As the political winds shifted, so did your funding requests to Congress. In October 2023, you requested supplemental detention funding, and your FY2025 budget request sought funding for 34,000 beds instead of the 25,000 sought in the two previous cycles. The result is unsurprising: the FY2024 spending bill you signed provides ICE $3.4 billion to jail an average of 41,500 immigrants per day, historically high funding surpassing all four years of the Trump administration.

I honestly just don't have much reaction to add to this besides what I said up above. They're not remarking on the massive backlog of people (including the people waiting on the Mexican side of the border, which is a significant source of suffering, since unlike people in custody there's no particular guarantee of food, water, or sanitation while they're just camping there for months and months). They're not wrong about the compromises Biden has been making with the Republicans, and the increased cruelty that's being allowed into the system as a result, though. They're not remarking at all on the things in Biden's proposals that will reduce the misery (increasing judges being the main one) -- which is fine, I mean, it's not their job to come up with explanations for why something might be inhumane; they're just pointing out that it's terrible and asking that he fix it. But like I say, it seems like anything whether cruel or mixed or beneficial that Biden tries to do now is going to be blocked by the Republicans, so it's all moot.

I'm just not sure how you take away from all of that any kind of conclusion that 100% of it is Biden's favorite thing (as opposed to something dictated in part by circumstances or Republican maliciousness), or that it doesn't matter whether it's Biden or Republicans because they're all the same.

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It is undesirable that politicians use our tax money this way, yes. This is a pretty dumb attempt at a semantic "gotcha" given that I'm here literally criticizing the Democrats for helping fund ICE.

Yes. They are my tax dollars. No, I do not want them spent that way. The Democrats do want to spend them on fascist shit. Do you understand how that works? How not supporting a thing is not the same as supporting it?

My point is that whether you say you "want" to support it or not, you are.

Similarly, whether or not Biden "wants" to support it, he's embedded in a system that sometimes might do things he doesn't want. In particular, on immigration, a lot of it is in the hands of people in congress who are explicitly malicious.

I'm not trying to excuse him for anything, and he's obviously in a better position to influence the system than you are. But, just like you not wanting your tax dollars to fund something you don't want doesn't really change whether it happens (and so, you are funding a fascist organization), Biden wanting the immigration policy to be one way or another doesn't really mean anything if congress is setting rules that he doesn't want.

I don't think it's a secret that the Republicans have been pushing for more explicit cruelty in our system and Biden has been compromising with them in order to try to accomplish other things (some of which are good things for people), even knowing that some of what comes in might be bad, in the same way that you might pay your taxes even knowing that some of what it's funding is bad.

Surely makes sense? Maybe not, IDK; apparently my brain is scrambled. But to me the analogy seemed to be pretty understandable.

Like, your fascist brain can't even wrap itself around the fact that maybe there's some other reality here besides the one right-wingers have been portraying for the past twenty years.

Your rhetoric is quite literally indistinguishable from that of a MAGA supporter.

You caught me man. If there's one thing that's a common thread in all of my comments it's love for the right-wing reality and MAGA style rhetoric. Go back and read my comments about ICE and imagine them on Truth Social, and they'd fit right in.

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