An estimated 200 people, including 30 teenagers and young children and 20 people over the age of 60, are being held hostage in Gaza, Israel’s public broadcaster Kan said on Thursday, citing military sources.
Hamas says it has 200 hostages and that 50 more are held by other armed groups in the enclave. It said more than 20 hostages have been killed by Israeli air strikes, but has not given any further details.
In November 2023, Palestinian militants held around 250 people from Israel, including Israeli nationals and non-Israelis following their capture during the Hamas-led attack on Israel.
Edit 2: my mistake, they corroborate their numbers (250)
The Palestinian militants who raided Israel in the Hamas attacks on Oct. 7 killed over 1,200 people, according to Israel, and abducted over 240 civilians and soldiers, bringing them back to the Gaza Strip.
The framework that has been laid out by negotiators says that during a first six-week pause in the fighting, Hamas should release 40 of the remaining hostages, including all the women as well as sick and elderly men. In exchange, hundreds of Palestinian prisoners would be released from Israeli prisons.
Hamas has told international mediators – which include Qatar and Egypt - it does not have 40 living hostages who match those criteria for release, both sources said.
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With Hamas appearing to be unable to reach 40 in the proposed categories, Israel has pushed for Hamas to fill out the initial release with younger male hostages, including soldiers, the Israeli official said.
With Hamas appearing to be unable to reach 40 in the proposed categories, Israel has pushed for Hamas to fill out the initial release with younger male hostages, including soldiers, the Israeli official said.
I was quoting the article, which contained important information. I would presume that the hostages want to return home, as do their loved ones. I don’t think that the number of combatants released by Hamas would constitute a significant increase to Israel’s fighting force, at least in the numbers mentioned in the article, and this seems like a bad excuse to disrupt hostage exchanges.
The other two newly released hostages were a brother and sister, Belal and Aisha al-Ziadna, aged 18 and 17 respectively, according to the Israeli prime minister’s office. They are Bedouin Arab citizens of Israel and among four members of their family taken hostage while they were milking cows on a farm.
Wahid Alhuzail, who chairs a group for Bedouins kidnapped on Oct. 7, said he was happy they were freed. “But it’s not completely fulfilling. We want everyone to come home and for nobody to be stuck in the hands of the terror organization Hamas,” he told Reuters.
“We want these people to go home,” Hamad said. “And, also, we want our prisoners now to go home. So I think we are ready now to have complete compromise, complete a deal, in order to receive all the hostages, either military or civilians.”
The majority of the almost 100 hostages who remain alive are believed to be male IDF soldiers or men of military reserve age. Hamas is expected to try to use to them in later phases to try to negotiate more significant concessions, including more high-level prisoners and a permanent end to the war.
Yes, they understand the difference, but seemingly not in the same way you do, they seem to think releasing soldiers could help end the conflict.
Edit: also your reply doesn’t address what I said.
This similarly does not support your original assertion, from your original article:
“This ends in complications and sometimes even in the patient’s death,” the doctor wrote, Haaretz reported.
Is there a reason you choose to embellish (and directly substitute words in the article for your own personal opinion) instead of accurately convey what the article says?
This is flagrantly misrepresenting what this discussion is about as I’ve directly quoted. This is not conducive to informative discussion, and a disservice to this sub.
Well, the people receiving it may not see it that way. FTA:
For years, Iran’s leaders have declared the necessity of arming Palestinian fighters in the occupied West Bank. Iran has long supplied weapons for attacking Israel to militants elsewhere in the region, members of its so-called Axis of Resistance, including its two primary Palestinian allies in Gaza, Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad.
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Fatah, the Palestinian faction that controls the Palestinian Authority and with it much of the West Bank, accused Iran last week of trying to “exploit” Palestinians for its own means by spreading chaos in the territory. In a statement, Fatah said it would not allow “our sacred cause and the blood of our people to be exploited” by Iran.
A key component of Iran’s strategy in its neighborhood has been the cultivation of an “axis of resistance,” a loose network of regional militias with discrete organizational structures, overlapping interests, and ties to Iran’s security and religious establishments. The Islamic Republic’s founder, Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, maintained that exporting the revolution was necessary for its survival, arguing that if the theocracy remained “in an enclosed environment” it would “definitely face defeat.” Determined to spark a wider wave of Islamist-led upheavals against secular monarchies and republics in the Middle East, Khomeini and his acolytes developed an infrastructure dedicated to toppling the status quo across the Muslim world.
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With its cultivation of Hezbollah as a template, Iran then invested an enormous amount of effort and resources in cultivating militant groups across the Middle East. The support it has given to Palestinian militant groups, especially Palestinian Islamic Jihad and Hamas, paid tremendous dividends over subsequent decades, as did its aid to Shiite opponents of Saddam in Iraq. These relationships provided the springboard for Iranian influence at key turning points for regional stability. In the 1990s, PIJ terrorist attacks disrupted the Israeli-Palestinian peace process and nudged Israeli politics rightward. After the 2003 U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, Tehran’s patronage of the Supreme Islamic Iraqi Council and the Dawa Party, both significant Shiite factions, positioned Iran as the most influential player in Iraq’s contentious postwar polity.
This is an old article, and captures, at it says, a spike, not an overall trend. From your source:
Head pollster Khalil Shikaki, who has been surveying Palestinian public opinion for more than two decades, called it a “dramatic” shift, but said it also resembles previous swings toward Hamas during times of confrontation. Those all dissipated within three to six months as Hamas failed to deliver on promises of change.
According to the latest survey, a majority of Palestinians (51%) supported a two-state solution based on the 1967 borders, with slightly more support seen among residents of Gaza than among West Bank Palestinians. A quarter of respondents also said they supported “armed resistance” as a preferred solution to Palestinian-Israeli conflict.
The results also revealed a very low level of support among Palestinians for institutions, whether it be the Palestinian Authority or Hamas. “The Palestinians don’t feel that any of their leaders are really legitimate in this sense,” said Robbins.
Arguably, this does not imply they are hated or anything else you said, nor does your source. As well there is support for reforming the PA:
A related issue, Jamal added, is that the Palestinian Authority (PA) has lost legitimacy, due to both its levels of corruption and the continued failure of the peace process. If Palestinians are to ever believe in a future that extends beyond Hamas, she said, then the international community must work together to help bolster the legitimacy of the PA so that it can be the champion of the peace process.
The United States has welcomed the formation of a new Palestinian autonomy government, signaling it is accepting the revised Cabinet lineup as a step toward Palestinian political reform.
The Biden administration has called for “revitalizing” the West Bank-based Palestinian Authority in hopes that it can also administer the Gaza Strip once the Israel-Hamas war ends. The war erupted nearly six months ago, triggered by an Oct. 7 Hamas attack on southern Israel.
In a statement late Friday, U.S. State Department spokesperson Matthew Miller said the United States looks forward to working with the new group of ministers “to deliver on credible reforms.”
And this fails to address the substance of what was said, instead aiming to undermine the person saying it.
Sadly doesn’t prove they’re Israeli plants, as the other user had noted below. I’m sure you know what you are and aren’t responding to. My source from Stanford paints a different picture qualitatively (and quantitatively, and is newer), but that’s a personal interpretation of the sources.
So by not entirely wrong, you’re saying something is wrong?
This is… An odd standard. So am I to understand that if part of a comment is deemed partially correct (and accompanied by verifiable misinformation) this is not removed? Seems like a lack of enforcement to me, and that the comment should be corrected at the very least. But if this is traditionally how things are done here, then I suppose this is what I should expect moving forward.
Personally, this seems like a less than sneaky way to avoid the rules of the sub.
To back up the other user, who obviously read the article
White supremacists sharply focused their hate on the LGBTQ+ community in 2023. More than 20 percent of white supremacist events included some element of anti-LGBTQ+ hate. On at least 39 occasions, white supremacists demonstrated outside LGBTQ+ event venues, including drag shows and Pride festivals. A range of white supremacist groups and networks participated in these demonstrations including individuals associated with Active Club Networks, Aryan Freedom Network, Blood Tribe, Nationalist Social Club, Patriot Front and WLM.
Approximately 18 percent of 2023’s white supremacist events included at least one element of antisemitic harassment, from chants and written propaganda/signage to Hitler salutes, swastika flags and demonstrations targeting Jewish institutions.
Examples of events targeting Jewish Institutions:
Orlando, Florida, February 2023: Fifteen individuals associated with GDL held antisemitic banners and shouted obscenities at pedestrians and passing cars during a demonstration in front of the Chabad of South Orlando.
East Cobb and Macon, Georgia, June 2023: Approximately 11 individuals associated with GDL waved swastika flags and held antisemitic signs outside Jewish institutions in Georgia.
Toledo, Ohio, July 2023: At least 20 individuals associated with Blood Tribe demonstrated outside of the Toledo, Ohio Jewish Community Campus with tiki torches and swastika flags.
Missoula, Montana, October 2023: Approximately two dozen people associated with Vinland Rebels, White Lives Matter and the Active Club Network demonstrated in front of Congregation Har Shalom. The group displayed signs that read “Diversity = White Genocide” and “Refugees not welcome.”
Madison, Wisconsin, November 2023: During a march through downtown Madison, 20 individuals associated with Blood Tribe stopped in front of the Gates of Heaven synagogue. During the march the group shouted racial epithets as passersby and chanted “Israel is not our friend” and “There will be blood.”
Dallas, Texas, November 2023: Several individuals associated with GDL and Order of the Black Sun waved a Nazi flag and held antisemitic signs across the street from a North Dallas temple.
In general, ADL reports news with low bias; however, editorial content does lean left. Further, the ADL advocates for policies favored by the liberal left, such as a two-state solution for Palestine and Israel and supporting same-sex marriage and the DREAM Act.
Overall, we rate the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) Left-Center biased based on political positions that mostly favor liberal policy. We also rate them High for factual reporting due to proper sourcing of information and being a resource for IFCN fact-checkers. (D. Van Zandt 10/6/2016) Updated (03/27/2024)
Poisoning the well (or attempting to poison the well) is a type of informal fallacy where adverse information about a target is preemptively presented to an audience, with the intention of discrediting or ridiculing something that the target person is about to say.
To which I indicated that you were poisoning the well. If you have another reliable source that confirms or refutes the information in the article, that would be useful to the conversation.
I can see you’re not interested in the information in the article, or my suggestion to find confirming or refuting evidence related to the article (ie being critical) and would rather take the discussion elsewhere.
Ad hominem (Latin for ‘to the person’), short for argumentum ad hominem, refers to several types of arguments which are fallacious. Typically this term refers to a rhetorical strategy where the speaker attacks the character, motive, or some other attribute of the person making an argument rather than attacking the substance of the argument itself.
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