Honytawk ,
dumbass ,
@dumbass@lemy.lol avatar

Game makers should hire me to test their maps, if thereā€™s a spot where I can get 100% stuck no matter what, you bet your shiny metal ass Iā€™ll find it.

roux ,
@roux@hexbear.net avatar

Me and dumb compact design blueprints on Dyson Sphere Program. Iā€™ve had to tear parts of builds down an embarrassing amount of times to get unstuck because of the way hitboxes on refactionators and a few other buildings work in close proximity.

BreadOven ,

I once deleted system32ā€¦Thatā€™s when I began calling the shots.

bilb ,
@bilb@lem.monster avatar

Iā€™m a good enough software engineer that this isnā€™t true. I bet I get paid a lot more than you. šŸ˜Ž

(The above statement is not a truthful statement.)

cmg ,

The closest I ever got to this story was working help desk in 1996. A user called up saying they had deleted the Internet.

Took me a while to understand he dragged ā€œthe Internetā€ to the recycle bin on the desktop.

SergeYSDT ,

Yes! I remember this happening a lot, and I could never really truly understand the thought process behind it! But the thing is, this is still happening today, just in different context, and itā€™s still equally as baffling!

Barometer3689 ,

It just means that they called their browser ā€œthe internetā€ right? Or am I missing something here?

Mindful ,

I have a vague memory of the browser icon having the name ā€œInternetā€ back in the day. Or maybe it was the dial-up icon. Might be that?

AngryCommieKender ,

The original ā€œInternet Explorerā€ icon was a globe and magnifying glass, with the text ā€œThe Internet,ā€ underneath

hydroptic , (edited )

It was an actual icon:

https://sopuli.xyz/pictrs/image/e0299c87-cd0b-45a2-b99a-3c7bd10f995a.webp

(found the image here mastodon.social/@benjedwards/11031604817437112)

I donā€™t remember what it did though. I think it wasnā€™t the browser, and I have a vague memory it wasnā€™t for dial up either, but my memoryā€™s shit so I personally wouldnā€™t trust me on that

Edit: had to look this up, it was IE. I think I didnā€™t remember it because I never really used IE since I started off with NCSA Mosaic and then Netscape

merc ,

It was Internet Explorer. But, what was probably confusing about it was that anything that required Internet access would start up the program that dialed the modem and connected to the Internet. So, clicking on the icon would eventually launch the browser, but first it would launch the dial-up program, which would take about 30s to connect.

As an aside, it really grates to see how Microsoft called their browser ā€œThe Internetā€. And thatā€™s the least dastardly thing they did that let them use their monopoly on operating systems to destroy Netscape.

Sidyctism ,

There was actually a german ad about this quite some time ago: a grandma did this, then called her grandson ā€œi think i just deleted the internetā€.

How the ad continued? No clue.

What it was advertising? No clue.

merc ,

Was it Jen? She was entrusted to take care of the Internet by Roy and Moss, and she did a piss-poor job of it.

Theharpyeagle ,

If you ever think ā€œan actual human couldnā€™t possibly click that fastā€, you are wrong. Debounce your critical actions.

eatham ,
@eatham@aussie.zone avatar

It doesnā€™t matter if a human canā€™t, some idiot is going to open an autoclicker at 1000cps and break it

Acters ,

I promise you I have done exactly that, i had an auto clicker bound to my space bar and was to lazy to click and would just hold the space bar down when I knew that I was going to click a bunch of gui buttons.(which I though wouldnt be problem) Quickly learned some programs donā€™t like it at all. Lol

CileTheSane ,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

Love the extra work you went through in order to not have to click the mouse button. :p

Humans are wild.

Acters ,

I didnā€™t have to work on it for just to not click through ui menus, I just had my autoclicker enabled from some reason(likely game) and just randomly thought, ā€œIā€™ll use the autoclick, lolā€ and had some interesting stuff happen. It was entertaining and nothing about being practical.

eatham ,
@eatham@aussie.zone avatar

What would you do when you needed to type a space?

Acters ,

I would turn off the auto clicker, I just had it on randomly

LillyPip ,
@LillyPip@lemmy.ca avatar

Iā€™m a user experience designer. My favourite story is from aviation engineering. I donā€™t remember the year or all the details, but the US Navy had put stupid amounts of money and time into engineering a new fighter jet. It was worked out on paper and built to exact specifications. Then, during the first human test of it, the pilot ejected on the tarmac before it took off. The plane crashed, obviously, but the pilot couldnā€™t explain what happened (apparently he had a concussion from his unscheduled landing).

The plane was built again, and shortly after takeoff, the pilot again ejected without explanation.

What the fuck was going on?

In the retelling I heard, someone finally noticed the design of the cockpit was to blame. In trying to cram all the standard controls plus new ones into the smallest amount of space, the designers had moved the eject lever right next to the lever to adjust the seat position ā€“ theyā€™d coloured the eject lever red, but the pilot couldnā€™t see that since it was below and slightly to the right of his ass, and both levers were the same size and shape. Nobody noticed this was a problem until at least two pilots accidentally ejected on takeoff.

This might be apocryphal, I donā€™t know, but I learnt it as an example of how things might look good on paper, but you canā€™t really know until a user fucks everything up.

LordKitsuna ,

Id hardly call that a user fucking things up, thatā€™s not even good on paper. Those are a retarded pair of things to have next to one another regardless of any coloring on them. Especially with the same handles

rtxn ,

Iā€™m not a fighter pilot, but when I think ā€œejectionā€, canā€™t imagine anything but a high-stress situation where the pilot doesnā€™t have time to figure out which is the ejection lever. Imagine a real emergency where the pilot grabs the wrong lever, gently slides back with the seat, and then fucking dies on impact.

Acters ,

ā€œGently slides backā€ šŸ˜‚

merc ,

My favourite story about aircraft design about some of the design mistakes on the F-16 fighter.

The F-16 was the first fly-by-wire fighter. They didnā€™t have much experience with it, and tried out some new things. One was that instead of having a stick between the legs of the pilot they used a side stick. And, since everything was fly-by-wire they didnā€™t need the stick to mechanically move. They decided theyā€™d just use a solid stick with pressure transducers, since it was simpler and more reliable than a stick that moved.

The trouble was that the pilots couldnā€™t estimate how much pressure they were using. This led to the pilots over-rotating on take-off (pulling back too hard). Even funnier was that at early airshows, when the pilots were doing a high-speed roll, you could see the control surfaces twitching with the heartbeat of the pilots as they shoved the stick as hard as they could to get maximum roll.

That led to them adding a small amount of give to the stick, essentially giving the pilots feedback on how hard they were pushing the control surfaces.

Another more subtle issue with the design was that originally the stick was set up for forward, back, left and right aligned with the axes of the plane itself. But, they discovered that when pilots pulled back on the stick, they were pulling slightly towards themselves, causing the plane to also roll. So, they realigned it so that ā€œpulling backā€ is slightly pulling towards the pilotā€™s body, rather than directly along the forward / backward axis of the plane.

mdhughes ,
@mdhughes@lemmy.ml avatar

This story is a lie.

Thereā€™s no ā€œcomputer iconā€. Dragging the System disk to trash ejects it on a classic Mac. If you burrow down into System, you can try deleting system filesā€¦ which are locked and canā€™t be deleted.

You can test this yourself on Infinite Mac

thedirtyknapkin ,

i mean, this story sounds like itā€™s from pre-release testing, or maybe a trade show demo showing a pre-release build. it not working this way in the release version just makes sense, and doesnā€™t mean this is a fake story.

mdhughes ,
@mdhughes@lemmy.ml avatar

No such demo happened. They unveiled the 128K with that System 1.0 on stage at a special event. The Lisa has a different UI, but also canā€™t do whatā€™s described.

Dekkia ,
@Dekkia@this.doesnotcut.it avatar

That doesnā€™t mean it didnā€™t happen. It just means that the demo wasnā€™t public.

mdhughes ,
@mdhughes@lemmy.ml avatar

Yes your uncle who works at Nintendo ^W Apple told you about it.

ToxicDivinity ,
@ToxicDivinity@hexbear.net avatar

The story seems to be referencing the first time apple had regular people try it which may have been in a focus group or at some kind of publicity event. If this did happen Iā€™m sure they made safeguards against it before selling it

AngryCommieKender , (edited )

I have to agree. The Macintosh 128k didnā€™t even have an internal HDD. Everything was run on 3.5" floppies. Heck they may have invented the 3.5" floppy, idk. As you said, dragging the system dick icon to the trash on a 128k was literally the easiest way to eject the disk.

My father still owns one, that may actually work. He also got 2 extra external floppy drives for the thing. He also has an Apple ]|[

rnd ,

Not necessarily ā€“ the story might have described a beta version of the OS, in which these interactions worked differently.

frogmint ,

Well if the story is true, wouldnā€™t they have just fixed the software, so it would have never seen the light of day?

mdhughes ,
@mdhughes@lemmy.ml avatar

If they had ā€œfixedā€ it, there would be a ā€œMy Computerā€ icon. No such thing exists, go TRY the Infinite Mac I linked above.

frogmint ,

Unless this story is from preproduction software and they got rid of the computer icon. Or maybe that detail was misremembered and it was actually a disc icon.

mercano ,
@mercano@lemmy.world avatar

I hadnā€™t heard the Mac story before. I wonder if itā€™s legit, as I donā€™t think the Mac, or the Lisa before it, ever had the equivalent of a My Computer icon. Disks appear directly on the desktop; dragging a disk to the trash can ejects it if its removable media, and the only type of disk the original Mac had was a 400KB single-sided 3.5ā€ floppy drive.

MystikIncarnate ,

The act of someone sitting at a brand new Mac, with a never-before-used interface, and immediately clicking the computer icon to drag it to the trash, is such a powerful image for me.

The statement of, ā€œthis is what I think of this computerā€ is so strong, because I have to believe that whomever did that must have been a tech person to be at the event; but perhaps they just thought it was a shortcut and didnā€™t like shortcuts on their desktop so they tried to remove it? Like, you can do this with Windowsā€¦ Because the computer object (in Explorer) is immutable, and any reference to it is simply a link to that object.

I prefer the thought of them just being like ā€œthis computer is trashā€ and doing that, and causing the system to crash.

VirtualOdour ,

Moments like that are why I belive in timetravel, in the real timeline it took two years to find that bug and it was resolved quietly but of course someone is going to come back and troll them by doing it on day 1.

stebo02 ,
@stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

why would it take 2 years to find a bug? release something new to the public and it will always take seconds

limelight79 ,

I think itā€™s more like they thought they were supposed to do that. Iā€™m guessing they had no idea what to do, and putting an object in trash or recycle is something everyone understands, so thatā€™s what their brain told them to do.

CileTheSane ,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

ā€œokayā€¦ What happens if I do this?ā€

Lemmy_2019 ,

That one is a ā€˜whoeverā€™ btw.

MystikIncarnate ,

Okay, but can you explain why?

blindsight ,

Whoever is the subject of the verb ā€œdidā€. Whoever did something.

Whomever is an object, so whoever did something to whomever.

In other words, ā€œwhoeverā€ does things; ā€œwhomeverā€ has things done to them.

limelight79 ,

Back in the early 1990s, I worked at a small-town hardware store chain (nuts and bolts, not computers) that was computerizing. A few weeks after we rolled it out, a customer came in with two gift certificates to purchase one item.

It seems pretty basic now, but using two gift certificates to purchase one item was simply not a requirement anyone had thought of. The system had no way to ring it up. The assistant manager of the store did the smart thing and rung it up as a gift certificate plus cash for the balance, so that the customer was good to go. They had to do some adjustments on the back end for that one sale and then update the software to allow for that situation.

I always remember that when Iā€™m working on requirements for systems, wondering what obvious things weā€™re not thinking ofā€¦

yuriy ,
umbrella ,
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

well id expect the computer to crash if i threw it in the trash can

SeabassDan ,

I can imagine thinking itā€™s be funny in the early stages where things wouldnā€™t really be too logical they way they are now. Might even assume it wouldnā€™t actually do anything and I could just pull it back out.

bananaghost ,
@bananaghost@kbin.social avatar
umbrella ,
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

hahahaha i was thinking of this very gif, stop reading my mind

stebo02 ,
@stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

would be even better if the pc actually teleported to his trash bin

booty ,
@booty@hexbear.net avatar

no youā€™re getting it confused with the crash can

thrax ,

Looks like someone asked ChatGPT, not their friend lol

ā€œHuman beings then doā€¦ā€

maniclucky ,

That seems like a perfectly normal phraseā€¦

Zorque ,

YES I TOO BELIEVE IT TO BE A COMPLETELY NORMAL PHRASE USED BY US AVERAGE HUMANS ALL THE TIME

Catoblepas ,

Especially in context, where itā€™s contrasting QA testers and ā€˜normalā€™ people.

It would probably take longer to prompt ChatGPT to write this than it would to just write it. Itā€™s two short paragraphs.

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

Perfectly cromulent, even.

chatokun ,

People speak weird all the time, and LLMs are trained on people. Some arenā€™t native speakers, some just like to omit verbs, nouns, or tenses when it seems obvious and they want to be expedient, some just do it for fun or laziness (see, l33t speak and or early texting, typos).

LLMs are trained on human input, so of course it on occasion uses our bad habits. Thinking like your comment suggests is what gets people who really wrote their own stuff in trouble, because people think they can identify stuff like this more than they actually can.

thrax ,

You do agree that itā€™s a weird way of saying it though, which is all I was making fun of. Itā€™s similar verbiage an AI would use. I get it, but lighten up lol

bstix ,

When I started working in the late 90s early 00s, every company had their own It-department. These days itā€™s just some consultant or subscription to another company offering their consultants to do specific tasks.

This thread reminds me of why having an IT department makes good sense financially - today.

You can add up all the salaries, equipment and training costs and itā€™ll still be cheaper than wasting time and money in meetings with consultants trying to either explain the task or moan about pricing.

Shit doesnā€™t work, because they arenā€™t paid to make shit work.

I can make code that works for me and I can make code that works for you. The price is different, but you also need to know what you actually want it to do, and I donā€™t know how much money you are willing to sacrifice for us both fumbling around in that equation.

jubilationtcornpone ,

ā€œLook how much money we can save productivity we can eliminate by outsourcing IT!ā€

keepcarrot ,

One could, indeed, argue that consulting firms make their bread and butter by not having things work but fixed temporarily.

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