jsomae ,

I loved the pilot (ep. 0?) but was disappointed by episode 1. The change in voice actors really threw me, and the writing wasn't as clever.

Now I have my eyes on The Amazing Digital Circus.

Pyr_Pressure ,

I quite liked it, don't usually like musical shows but the tunes are catchy and somewhat funny sometimes

PiJiNWiNg ,

I only saw the first two episodes or so, but I didn't really enjoy it. It reminded me of Drawn Together, same kind of "irreverent" humor, though admittedly I enjoyed Drawn Together when it was on TV as a teenager.

rockandsock ,

I didn't enjoy it. It seems lime something I would have enjoyed when I was in middle school or high school.

Ibaudia ,
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Fun setting, concept, and animation, but the overall writing quality is extremely poor. Significantly worse than the pilot, especially when it comes to the exposition.

Madiator2011 ,
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Having soundtrack on the loop :)

intensely_human ,

Used to be cool, not any more

shinigamiookamiryuu ,

The way I like to think of it is being like Labyrinth if Labyrinth was set in a hotel tycoon type of setting. It's eye candy and ear candy but not food for thought. It's literally just pizzazz.

scoobford ,

I enjoyed it, but not a lot. It very clearly panders to former drama kids and fanfiction.net readers. Overall, I think helluva boss is better.

I'm also not super into musical numbers in general though, which is a big part of the show.

bitwolf ,

I liked it a lot, its a tier above most of the streaming services. Helluva Boss set my expectation high and they were nearly met.

I'm happy for the artist but I am also longing for more Helluva Boss as well. I hope the artist kept their IP in the deal.

HurlingDurling ,
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Apparently a new season of helluva boss is coming soon so well see. I'm hoping for the artist as well

pixxelkick ,

It's a musical, the songs are catchy.

However I disliked how fast paced the writing was, and how even though it's called "Hazbin Hotel" and the pilot framed it as a sort of slice of life "bunch weirdos" hanging out and getting redemption, instead that weirdly became the B plot?

Somehow they took the whole story and shifted it over to the B plot and pulled this other big high stakes thing out as the A plot.

That's not really what I was wanting to watch, and it feels a bit like they hit swapped out the story on me, so I kinda got a bit turned off by that.

I don't give a shit about some high stakes angels vs demons war end game shit.

I wanted to see interpersonal relationships of weirdos learning to co-exist.

Tl;dr: I was expecting something closer to The Good Place, but instead that got side lined by some huge MCU style plot no one asked for.

SnotFlickerman , (edited )
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Tl;dr: I was expecting something closer to The Good Place, but instead that got side lined by some huge MCU style plot no one asked for.

What is it with media blowing their load early these days? There's no preventing them from slowly becoming some huge MCU style plot no one asked for slowly over time naturally. The X Files is a great example of evolving from Monster-of-the-Week to an overarching big story. Adventure Time had a big overarching story, but it took time for that story to warm up... like a lot of time. In the meantime there were a bunch of standalone stories.

Anyway, really good and unique take that I haven't seen a lot but rings true. It absolutely feels like a bait-and-switch from the original proposition, which was definitely more slice-of-life-of-freaks-seeking-redemption.

pixxelkick ,

The fact that they prioritized Helluva Boss (which does follow that type of storyline), on their own YouTube (which they have control over), whereas Hazbin was put onto Amazon Prime with only 8 episodes honestly is what I think caused it.

My gut instinct was to assume they had to agree to certain conditions to get onto Amazon Prime and the money from that is what got us Helluva Boss (which if you haven't watched that, it's so fuckin good)

SnotFlickerman ,
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Helluva Boss had a stronger start, but it also quickly devolved into the same tedious "I just learned to cuss" type humor.

GuyFi ,

I really quite enjoyed it, but if you have 0 stomach for musicals you won't like it

VaultBoyNewVegas ,

I don't. I hated wizard of Oz being on TV every year at Xmas yet I liked the songs on hazbin hotel.

taladar ,

I love musicals and musical movies but really didn't like this one.

KazuyaDarklight ,
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I'm CIS white dude who is rapidly approaching 40, I really enjoyed it overall.

SnotFlickerman ,
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Top tier animation and style.

Bottom tier writing.

It fucking kills me because I wanted it to be good so badly due to the high quality art and animation, but it's written so amateurishly and immaturely, I can't get past it. The writing was dead before the ship even sank.

It's like a teen who just figured out how to cuss for the first time. Even Cannibal the Musical handled it better than this, and that was pre-South Park from the South Park numbskulls, who aren't exactly known for being "mature."

distantsounds ,

Absolutely agree on Hazbin; all style no substance. I think the writing is where the South Park guys have always excelled, even with Hannibal. They are juvenile at face value, but the stories tends to dig into something deeper. I feel like Hazbin and South Park are quite opposite when it comes to style & substance.

SomeBoyo ,

I agree. The artstyle is great, but it unfortunately doesn't have enough runtime to flash out a good story.

TheCheddarCheese OP ,
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Late reply I know, but it's weird how in this thread I mostly found negativity towards the show but when I look other places the reviews seem to be largely positive... Is it just that only the people who enjoyed the show bothered to write one?

SnotFlickerman ,
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That tends to be how everything is. The critics are always the loudest voices, while people who enjoy things tend to be pretty quiet about their enjoyment.

I wouldn't think too much of it. It's enjoyed by a large number of people, and the creator and the community should be happy enough with that. My critique isn't going to impact its popularity.

It also depends on who you're dealing with. I have a background in literature, so I'm a lot more picky about my stories. I also love animation, so I was drawn to the series for its style and quality animation but was driven away by the writing.

The thing is, imperfect writing is happily enjoyed by many. My curmudgeonly attitude toward it shouldn't impact their enjoyment, or I certainly hope it doesn't.

Further, maybe the creator is reading these kind of critiques and learning from them. I've seen many things with rough starts grow into something more special. Time will tell if Hazbin Hotel is able to achieve the same. I wouldn't count it out of the running, the creator seems thoughtful enough, and if they take valid writing critique to heart, they may become a much better writer well into the series. I could come back in Season 3 and be blown away about how much better it is than the first season, you know? Some folks aren't willing to let people cook.

I have my opinion about it now, but I'm also happy to have that opinion be changed over time. No reason to write off a new artist for a weak start in some areas. Almost no one is a Leonardo DaVinci who can do great art of various styles right out of the gate. No, we have an excellent animator and songsmith who has weak (but not terrible) writing chops. Those writing chops will now have a chance to grow and hopefully become better.

taladar ,

I personally really don't like the art style but tried watching part of the first episode before I stopped and had to say "nope, this really isn't for me".

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