I think it's extremely invasive that amazon is telling me this ( lemmy.world )

even the name is too much imo, when i delivered pizza some places had their system like this, i don't like strangers knowing that. it's too personal.

the picture is really, really too far. only the most utter HOA boomer could even potentially spin needing to know that. and you can of course imagine the issues with it.

vox ,
@vox@sopuli.xyz avatar

it's delayed by like 10 minutes iirc

GBU_28 ,

This helps delivery folks not get shot

drmeanfeel ,

What's the overlap of "people who blindly fire at perceived trespassers" and "people who are going to say 'ah, Maria, my Amazon deliveryperson'"?

AnalogyAddict ,

I think it's sweet that everyone here thinks it's a safety measure and not just proof that the package was delivered so they don't have to refund it if porch pirates steal it.

brbposting ,

Excuse me! Maria is not a package!

(Seriously though are you thinking of the dropoff photo? Maybe see the post again unless I’m missing something)

AnalogyAddict , (edited )

Yes, I'm not responding to the post, but other comments that I thought were saying the drop-off photo is too invasive and for safety.

Now that I'm rereading it, I think I misunderstood.

I still think the deliverer photo isn't for safety, probably more Amazon trying to humanize themselves.

jwing ,

I deliver for Amazon Flex. Although I don't appreciate having my name and face put out there, the real problem I have with this is showing people exactly where I'm at on a map. Like yes, the person with dozens of packages in their car is right here if you want to go rob them or try to take something while we are at a house or in a store or something. Makes you feel like a loot piñata.

Also, it says X stops away, but we are contractors, so we can leave the route for whatever reason we deem necessary. Eat lunch, pick up kid, whatever. So I feel it puts an unreasonable expectation that "my package will definitely be here in Y minutes"

Just my 2 cents anyways.

Ballistic_86 ,

All Amazon drivers are contracted, check out Amazon DSP. We also use the Flex app. Your location, even as a Flex driver, is on a delay. Unless you are having to take 10+ minutes at a stop, it will never reveal your current location. Even my DSP couldn’t get my exact location until I had been stationary for some time.

brbposting ,

✍️✍️ loot piñata inactive outside lunch hours

LifeOfChance ,

Yo that last bit is messed up. I can't even imagine working and having to grab my kiddo knowing people are watching me get to them. That seems so damn stressful for you guys. Even me as a consumer is annoyed by that. I'm the guy who would count down stops if I had to wait for super long as the "next stop" I'd get super annoyed. Not that any of it would be the drivers fault since that's their job and it's being made significantly more stressful almost as if to manipulate you into working more.

Knowing this I'll know if it ever comes to my area to be significantly more understanding. Thank you for the perspective of that side.

PrincessLeiasCat ,

This is good insight, thank you for sharing.

lurch ,

this is to prevent you open the door for a fraud telling you he has your package. it's a safety measure.

i think uber does this as well.

Ballistic_86 ,

As a former Amazon driver, ain’t nobody got time to knock on your door and wait for you to answer/receive your package.

I delivered hundreds of packages a day and, maybe, interacted with 2/3 people, and typically because they were outside when I pulled up.

Standard delivery for Amazon is customer requested location and a photo.

lurch ,

In my region it's different. If you don't have a spot configured to drop it off, they will ring and wait. But if there's multiple recipients in the building, they will ring all of them at once, then distribute packages from the elevator to the people waiting on their levels.

Steve ,

Is this a geoguessing challenge? I see a Conoco and several partial street names.

Halosheep ,

Pretty sure Amazon is contracting outside delivery drivers and that would be the profile for the driver with that service.
You sometimes see people in plain clothes and a regular car delivering packages here.

jwing ,

This has been a thing for many years. In my area, it's literally the only way the packages get delivered. They don't even use UPS or FedEx anymore, besides maybe in very niche scenarios.

Ballistic_86 ,

All Amazon drivers are contracted. The Prime drivers you see are working for Amazon DSPs. The ones in their own cars are doing the same thing without the middle man- less packages, better pay, but no guarantees and no benefits provided.

brbposting ,

Amazon-provided vehicles also come with branded piss bottles so that’s something

Kolanaki ,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

Maybe it's the name of the truck itself and not the driver. Like the pickup lockers. 🤷🏻‍♂️

SuiXi3D ,
@SuiXi3D@fedia.io avatar

It isn’t.

ceasarlegsvin ,

It's not like Maria counts as a person in their system or anything what rights could they possibly be violating

partial_accumen ,

I think it's extremely invasive that amazon is telling me this

In my youth when I worked retail, I had a plastic nametag pinned to my shirt. My face was clearly visible of course.

How is this different?

even the name is too much imo, when i delivered pizza some places had their system like this, i don’t like strangers knowing that. it’s too personal.

Did you not have to wear a name tag like this guy?

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/eec48f6c-84fa-448a-8a94-b001f3d48bd3.png

Wrench ,

Hell, even mechanics tend to have a name tag on their jumpsuits. It's pretty common in any customer facing service job.

Ballistic_86 ,

UPS/Fedex/USPS drivers don’t share their location or a photo/name. Those systems have been working well in that manner for a century.

partial_accumen ,

UPS/Fedex/USPS staff are all wearing uniforms and driving large trucks blazoned with those organization's logos and trade dress.

Many Amazon delivery people are wearing plain clothes and driving unmarked cars or rented trucks with no branding.

glitch1985 ,

UPS allows you to track packages when they're close.

isyasad ,
@isyasad@lemmy.world avatar

I mostly agree but it's a different time. People can find you online using your name and face (not everybody is as anonymous as I'm sure many of you lemmites are) and it's not likely that anything bad would happen but I can see it as a privacy concern.
It's still just first name though so I don't see it as super invasive but it's still not exactly the same thing as a pizza guy wearing a name tag that says "Rambo" (or whatever it says in the image you uploaded)

QuincyPeck ,

It could also be that Amazon is like, “hey, don’t shoot this person. They’re delivering your shit.”

ekky ,

In what kind of backward and lawless war zone does one have to live to require telling people not to shoot at other people?

cobysev ,

America.

gregorum ,
@gregorum@lemm.ee avatar

Florida

SkyezOpen ,

Texas

SuiXi3D ,
@SuiXi3D@fedia.io avatar

Literally had a fellow driver return to the station with bullet holes in the van. I’ll give you two guesses as to what race the driver was. Doesn’t matter that it was an Amazon branded van, with the driver wearing an Amazon uniform.

SkyezOpen ,

Definitely a white guy!

Were any charges filed against the shooter?

SuiXi3D ,
@SuiXi3D@fedia.io avatar

Nope. This was before there were cameras in the vans, and the shooter wasn’t one of the driver’s stops. The neighborhood was in the middle of nowhere, was gated and walled.

TexasDrunk ,

I only shot one driver and that was an accident, ok? I was trying to bag an armadillo for dinner.

shalafi ,

The media has pumped us full of terror. The gun thing is a perfect example, but comments on that aren't welcome around here. I'll just say, the danger is nothing like most imagine.

Went to pick up a kayak from FB Marketplace, got the wrong house. Lady wouldn't answer at first, and that's with a German Shepard barking at me though the door and a Ring doorbell looking at me. When she finally came, she wouldn't open the glass, talked to me through the door.

For context, this is in the bougie suburb and I'm a well-dressed, middle-aged white guy. And I'm small. Hardly a scary man for the time and place.

On Nextdoor.com I see 1,000 idiot posts.

"Did you see the strange man walking down Oak Street?! I've seen him twice now!"

"A teenager came to my door today and I didn't know him! Has anyone else been terrorized like this?"

makuus ,

Those NextDoor posts are something else.

In my area, they tend to take on racist undertones. But, there are also posts of equal-opportunity fearmongering, wherein strange cars, teenagers with clipboards, or nicely
-dressed middle-aged ladies taking pictures of houses are suspected of casing the joint for later break-in, accompanied by the usual question: Should I call the police?

Folks really are that fearful, and it’s a sad state of affairs.

Darkassassin07 ,
@Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca avatar

America.

Just scrolling lemmy, I've read at least two cases this week of people either opening fire on a pizza delivery driver for pulling into the wrong driveway, or forcing an uber driver to the ground at rifle point for dropping off the gun owners daughter.

dogsoahC ,

Okay, but how is that alleviated by showing the name and picture to someone else?

taladar ,

I would see it the other way around. The picture could be useful, e.g. if you want to know if the person at your door is actually the delivery person, the name is really the unnecessary bit of info here.

Ballistic_86 ,

Is it common for your delivery driver to knock on your door and hand deliver your package? Standard for Amazon is customer requested location and a photo. There are some exceptions, but those packages wouldn’t be given (typically) to the individual Flex drivers.

taladar ,

Is it common for your delivery driver to knock on your door and hand deliver your package?

Yes, very common. Not everyone lives in a place with a secure location where packages can be deposited.

PP_BOY_ ,
@PP_BOY_@lemmy.world avatar

Humiliation ritual. That person is branded forever as being courier for Amazon.

BigDaddySlim ,
@BigDaddySlim@lemmy.world avatar

Jobs a job man, just because it's a shit company to work for doesn't mean you should shame them for it. They're just trying to pay their bills like everyone else

PP_BOY_ ,
@PP_BOY_@lemmy.world avatar

I agree. Which is why things like this are so much worse

iAmTheTot ,
@iAmTheTot@kbin.social avatar

Lmao, wtf? Amazon and Bezos can get fucked, but some of the takes here are just unhinged.

In the States, teens are getting shot at just for pulling into a driveway to turn around. This shit is a straight up safety measure for all parties involved.

Ballistic_86 ,

USPS/Fedex/UPS don’t share location, name or photo and you don’t see a lot of them getting shot. I drove for Amazon for 6 months or so. Most people know when they are expecting a delivery, especially from Amazon.

There is absolutely no way sharing a photo of the driver would increase safety for anyone. Anyone shooting at the pizza guy at the wrong house or teens turning around in the wrong driveway aren’t going to pay attention to a photo.

Amazon should, IMO, return back to an estimated delivery window. It is more than the other big delivery companies offer already.

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