buddascrayon ,

Yeah, I am definitely going to open up my $400 tv and replace the LCD controller with this sketchy piece of hardware instead of, checks notes, just not activating any of the smart features and not connecting the TV to the internet at all.

HaywardT OP ,

You are an Eloi not a Morlock.

tb_ ,
@tb_@lemmy.world avatar

Until you get a Roku where you literally can’t use the TV without accepting an arbitration clause.

buddascrayon ,

Here’s an idea for you, don’t buy a Roku TV. Visio is pretty much the exact same price and you can just not use the smart features and just connect HDMI.

tb_ ,
@tb_@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah but what if you already had one. Or bought one without knowing it’d pull a fast one on you.

“Here’s an idea for you; how about being aware of every single company you might interact with and all the shitty ways they try to screw you over.”

That’s a little crass, but I hope you understand my sentiment.

Also how can such arbitration clauses be both legal and binding, I don’t understand it.

buddascrayon ,

Did you know: you can look up a review of any piece of hardware out there that you wish to buy and gather info on it before making a purchase.

The more you know


tb_ , (edited )
@tb_@lemmy.world avatar

I love looking up reviews for every little thing I purchase, and even when I do ads nor microtransactions ever get patched in at a later date! Same goes for those service agreements which aren’t ever updated!

Oh, wait, no. That’s exactly what happens.
Nor do I want people who aren’t as tech savvy/in the know to get preyed upon/swindled.

buddascrayon ,

If you are incapable of sussing out the mindless morons who write reviews from the people who actually know what they’re doing that’s more of a you problem than anything else.

And buying a TV is not a little purchase unless you’re incredibly rich in which case why would you even fucking care. But hey, if you like rolling the dice on your hard-earned money to buy something that’s not going to work the way you want it to and then break it trying to “fix” it with some sketchy hardware from some rando online who thinks they’re “in the know” be
my
guest.

tb_ ,
@tb_@lemmy.world avatar

This is such a stupid argument. Not everyone is tech-literate. Ideally people wouldn’t have to look out for this because the practice wouldn’t exist. “Just don’t get robbed/swindled lol, you should’ve known better”.

And no, I’m not trying to advocate for whatever sketchy device is linked above. What I am saying is that I understand the sentiment, because that manufacturers are increasingly encroaching on our ability to own what we buy with parts pairing and always online requirements.

buddascrayon ,

What you’re talking about is right to repair. And yeah there should be a law that prevents them from controlling your device after you’ve purchased it. If this is something you want you should definitely write to your local Congress people. And if they won’t listen vote for someone else.

Otherwise it is most definitely buyer beware.

tb_ ,
@tb_@lemmy.world avatar

What you’re talking about is right to repair.

You put it like that’s unrelated, but it’s all part of the same scheme through which we own less and less.

In my opinion the buyer shouldn’t have to beware, but I guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree on that.

buddascrayon ,

If this is something you want you should definitely write to your local Congress people. And if they won’t listen vote for someone else.

You somehow failed to read this part.

tb_ ,
@tb_@lemmy.world avatar

I’m not American

buddascrayon ,

Do you live in a totalitarian state? Do you not get to vote for your government officials? Doesn’t matter if you’re American or not, right to repair and consumer rights isn’t solely an American issue.

tb_ ,
@tb_@lemmy.world avatar

No, you’re right. It was a bit dismissive of me.

Though rather than convincing just my local elected officials I’d rather also convince others out there, whom might become an additional voice for those local elected officials to hear.

reddithalation ,

reminds me of this video that shows how they reverse engineered the macbook touchbar display and made their own driver. I bet a tv is harder, but I’ve wondered the same thing, and would be interested to see someone try.

HaywardT OP ,

Great info. I think the screen is easier. Thanks for this.

randomaside ,
@randomaside@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Probably not but you can buy digital signage. You will pay upwards of $4k potentially based on your needs.

melpomenesclevage ,

Remember when you didn’t need this shit to just watch a movie?

randomaside ,
@randomaside@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I 'member

melpomenesclevage , (edited )

Seriously. Go back to the 90s, do this about anything, and Kevin mitnick will vanish from everybody’s radar just about instantly.

Now we need to do this shit to fucking watch TV. I need complex filtering software, anonymization tools, and a signal bounced off three continents to watch a video of a cat climbing into a box. A video that was recorded five feet away from me.

If I want to do it on a TV, I need to start soldering and hope to fuck I don’t touch the wrong capacitor.

randomaside ,
@randomaside@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Jeff Geerling did a whole video about you can just use a professional display. It has the option to install a raspberry pi because it’s meant to be a display for a store window. This would be a good alternative but $$$.

www.sharpnecdisplays.us/products/displays/m551

Note: the reason TVs are cheap now is because they collect data about you. Your data is subsidizing the cost. So if that’s the case how much money do they make off you that getting a non smart display costs 4k?

melpomenesclevage ,

Less than 4k; I remember my last dumb TV cost like 700$.

AVincentInSpace ,

and a signal bounced off three continents to watch a video of a cat climbing into a box. A video that was recorded five feet away from me.

are you talking about some proprietary camera that only syncs to the cloud?

melpomenesclevage ,

No I’m talking about my roommates YouTube videos of their cat.

HaywardT OP ,

There are some amazing projectors available these days and they don’t seem to be crippled by smartification. There are some cool homebuilt projectors that are made of bright light sources and old cell phone screens to, if you want to learn.

Hamartiogonic ,
@Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz avatar

Alternatively, you could also get a 40+” monitor. Avoid Samsung, because nowadays they are really pushing their spyware everywhere, including displays. Some other brands should be fine though.

KillingTimeItself ,

so far i’ve been between simply buying a projector, im assuming those havent been smartified yet.

Or buying a big format display, i think those still exist, i hope they do at least.

Presumably you could probably mutilate a smart tv to properly disable it’s functionality, but im not electrical engineer so don’t ask me.

PresidentCamacho ,

I’ve always wondered this, figure this is the thread to ask it.

I’ve been using the same dumb TV since 2013 it’s great, but eventually it’s gonna die an I’m scared of what pieces of shit smart TV’s are.

Could I not just use a computer and run it through the smart TV and bypass all the smart bullshit by using it as a monitor?

mystik ,

No.

Smart TV’s run automatic content detection on all their inputs. You will also be nagged to put the device online relentlessly, and some models will not let you skip internet connectivity.

Lemmy_Cook ,

Which manufacturers specifically will do this? Other comments seem to think LG is ok. Genuinely curious if anyone has experience.

Hamartiogonic ,
@Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz avatar

Someone should make a wall of shame for the worst offenders.

mystik ,

I wish I knew, but the ad industry LOVES this tech: duckduckgo.com/?q=smart+tv+ACR&t=ffab&ia=web Every other result is “How ACR is going to be awesome for advertisers/marketers”. the ones in between are “How to shut off ACR” :-/

HaywardT OP ,

Some smart TVs require you to connect them to the Internet before you can even use them with HDMI. It’s a changing world. This post has a lot of interesting comments.

inclementimmigrant ,

Provide the citation please because the last one you mentioned to me was about a return that you heard about while standing in line at Wal-Mart about a rok/tcl tv, which btw which you don’t need to do any of that to use it.


tcl.com/
/how-to-bypass-tcl-account-creation

oh and


tcl.com/
/02-turning-off-the-roku-features-of-yo


billwashere ,

This makes me want to look at TCL TVs more closely. Thanks.

Riven ,
@Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I wouldn’t recommend any TCL older than 5 years. No idea about new ones but I used to sell and install them and they all just sucked. The video quality was mid and they had a weird input delay that made them annoying to use. These were tvs that were new out of the box.

JoMomma ,

I own a 2017 TCL and can confirm, horrible picture, rolling bars, bad lighting, the worst HDR ever, makes horrible cap noises when it is on

LordCrom ,

I would immediately return that crap to the store.

HaywardT OP ,

Where I first caught wind of this was in the return line at Walmart where a guy was returning a smart TV because he wanted to hook up to his Dish receiver and couldn’t without creating an account.

buddascrayon ,

Every one I have encountered only requires that for use of the smart TV features. And if you have one that requires Internet just to use HDMI to connect to a device, your TV is 100% spying on you and you should return it.

HaywardT OP ,

I don’t buy TVs but I quized the guy pretty heavily thinking that was an option. He seemed to know what he was talking about about. This was an Onn Roku TV.

deathbird ,

My experience with LG/WebOS has been fine if I don’t try to get online. It doesn’t pester me to do so.

jg1i ,

I have a WebOS TV and I absolutely hate how slow it is. Turning on takes a long time. Selecting apps takes a long time. Flipping channels takes a long time. Did we forget how fast TVs from the 90s were??

deathbird ,

To be fair, TVs from the 90s didn’t have apps, and I don’t actually use the apps on my LG, so it seems fine.

deafboy ,
@deafboy@lemmy.world avatar

For older LG webos TVs, the delay between button push and action in the settings app can get as bad as 4 seconds.

The reason I bought it:

  1. Samsung pushed ads agressively on their TVs
  2. I had an HP tablet with webOS before and wondered what LG did with it after taking over the development. I was horrified.

The hardware is not much better. There’s constantly something wrong. But the LCD panel is pretty decent, so I just patch it up every time, rather than throwing it out.

werefreeatlast ,

In Spanish “WebOS” sounds exactly as if you were saying “huebos” which is slang for testicles.

Just a tidbit for your day to go just that much faster.

SuperSaiyanSwag ,

I have a Hisense and a LG and I never connected them to WiFi. I have not had any issues

inclementimmigrant ,

I’ve been using a Visio smart tv and a Fire smart tv, well smart for it’s time at least, and I’ve never had any issues with it since it’s never been connected to a network.

FordBeeblebrox ,

I’ve got a crappy Samsung knockoff with its own shit version of android that constantly switches inputs on its own and tries to load the home screen all the time. When the Xbox or PS5 is plugged in it will do that, when it’s HDMI into the laptop it doesn’t so YMMV but you should be ok.

Apropos of your first sentence, I have an odd question for anyone. The tv updated itself and now will try to turn off every hour or so due to some android power save, while I’m playing a game. I have to use the actual tv remote instead of the receiver which runs the inputs and volume. Can’t figure out how to turn that off, help!

Also, fuckin fantastic name Mr President. You and my cousin should hang out

Riven ,
@Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I’m assuming you’ve checked but I’ll still ask, there’s no setting to turn off the battery saver mode.

FordBeeblebrox ,

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/87603dbd-7926-45f6-bfe0-0760cbf0a052.jpeg

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/75eae0d7-b742-4ee4-a0ca-f994300b19b0.jpeg

The 2 hour screen saver is the longest option, there is no never. That is the extent of the power options on this Skyworth

Riven ,
@Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Damn wtf, that’s truly unfortunate bud. Thanks for letting us know though, it’ll help us steer clear of that brand. I’m also looking for a new dumb TV to use as a monitor for streaming in my living room. I’m just gonna hook up a mini pc to it and call it a day. Wireless mouse and mini keyboard is all I’ll need.

marito ,

BestBuy brand Insignia offers non-smart TVs.

LordCrom ,

Just don’t connect it to your wifi. Any TV that has cell service antenna, like most cars now, just don’t buy those.

captain_aggravated ,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

I bought a commercial TV, you might see them sold as “sigital signage.” it is my last “television”.

vox ,
@vox@sopuli.xyz avatar

huh i wonder, if the answer is “yes” or “somewhat yes” is it a valid alternative to replacing the power supply in my tv?
i got one for free with a busted psu, but the power supply board is extremely rare (i only ever saw two listings of it, one on AliExpress and one on ebay, both just one piece left and for higher price than a new used tv; similar boards are like 5 times cheaper)
basically, unless i could find an alternative solution like that, I’m throwing it away

HaywardT OP ,

I think you will need a power supply for your panel in addition to a driver board like this. This only provides the signals needed to switch the pixels but not the power to drive them. Some of these include backlight drivers but even then I think you would probably need more current for a TV than these provide.

AnAngryAlpaca ,

Why not disassemble it and sell all the working parts, if they are rare and expensive?

valkyre09 ,

This comment reminds me of an episode of Pawn Stars when the son bought a very rare and expensive bike to fix up. The dad gave him hell saying if the bike is so rare and expensive, where are they going to get parts!?

RampantParanoia2365 ,

Well you could not connect it to the internet


pastermil ,

Maybe you’d disable it on the settings, but it remains enabled anyways. Then it would detect an open wifi and connect autimatically.

Or maybe the software that comes with it is buggy as hell your HDMI framerate and resolution became affected.

Hule ,

A wifi antenna should be easy to find.

If you cut it, could it lead to an error, or just weaken the signal?

bamboo ,

If you wrap the TV in tinfoil, it’ll be a faraday cage and block all WiFi

sawdustprophet ,
@sawdustprophet@midwest.social avatar

If you wrap the TV in tinfoil, it’ll be a faraday cage and block all WiFi

I just keep my TV embedded in a block of lead.

sus ,

CRT TV with extra steps

melpomenesclevage ,

Just watching TV is lost technology.

Hule ,

But then even Superman can’t watch ads on it!

Hule ,

I mean I wouldn’t, but it’s an idea!

melpomenesclevage ,

Seriously considering decorating my next apartment like this. CNC engraved thin sheets of stainless steel, with a ground wire plugged in somewhere. Possibly the plumbing.

RampantParanoia2365 ,

Ok, well personally, I’ve never seen an open network near my house, so if I cared that much, it would work for mine.

RecluseRamble ,

You really shouldn’t run an open wifi at your home. Or do you carry your TV to Starbuck’s or something?

pastermil ,

Do you live in a farm your whole life or something?

RecluseRamble ,

Just in a country where open wifi without landing pages don’t exist. Apologies, didn’t think about actual open, public wifi.

pastermil ,

Most people are more aware of these things nowadays, so you may not see it as much


orb360 ,

Not anymore with sidewalk and other similar corporate networks bypassing any requirement for the consumer to connect the TV to wifi

Bluefruit ,

aboutamazon.com/
/everything-you-need-to-know-abo


“How much of my internet bandwidth does Amazon Sidewalk require?”

“Very little. Sidewalk’s connectivity is distinct from your home Wi-Fi. If you choose, however, to enable Sidewalk on your eligible Bridge devices, those devices would use a small amount of internet bandwidth.”

This sounds like it still needs your internet to work unless I’m missing something.

JeffKerman1999 ,

If you don’t have a sidewalk bridge but your neighbour half a mile away has one, your device will connect to your neighbour’s bridge and send data to Amazon without you knowing

clegko ,
@clegko@lemmy.world avatar

Uhhh. No.

KillingTimeItself ,

im sorry how is this legal?

melpomenesclevage ,

Corpo exception.

Also, maybe it isnt; state isnt gonna stop em either way.

KillingTimeItself ,

correct me if im wrong, but a device trying to connect to the network in order to analytics. Which can’t, which then defaults to a SECONDARY BACKUP mechanism, just to transmit ANALYTICS. Is basically just spying, and you cannot convince me otherwise.

melpomenesclevage ,

I
 Well I might try but only if it were funny. I agree. But its not effectively (and I don’t think technically) illegal.

KillingTimeItself ,

the fact that it isn’t illegal is astonishing to me.

or at least incredibly frowned upon.

melpomenesclevage ,

Why? Laws aren’t here to protect you. The entire pretense of that is just to make you accept when the propertarian (and in most places white supremacist) gangsters want to walk into your community and disappear/murder someone they don’t like.

It is frowned upon tho. By us. Others too, i bet, if they know about it. So what’s the plan? Me, I just haven’t bought a new TV since like 2014, but that’s a personal dodge rather than a systemic fix, and it feels really trashy not having a solution for others, besides ‘go without’.

KillingTimeItself ,

I mean, the law literally states that we aren’t required to house soliders in the time of war if we desire. It also asserts privacy and a certain level of personal freedom. I see no extent as to why this shouldn’t extend to multinational corpos or at the very least, be explicitly clear.

Ultimately, i think we just need to get into government, and actually fucking do something about it.

melpomenesclevage ,

“The system is broken! We must appeal to the system for help!”

That’s insane and absurd.

The amount of effort required to make government do anything other than imperialism and genocide (and they will always half ass it) is always a substantial multiple of just doing it yourself. Stop begging, and letting their bullshit appropriate your desire for a better world.

KillingTimeItself ,

ok then, let’s go coup the government.

melpomenesclevage ,

No that would still end up with a government. If I’m gonna risk my ass like that for something, its going to be something I actually want.

KillingTimeItself ,

i have a theory that anarchy always ends in some form of government. I suppose you could have an anarchic government. But i would much rather have a difference government, with the same principles to begin with tbh. Anarchy is more of a driving force to me than anything else.

melpomenesclevage ,

Everything always ends in something else. If it didn’t, it wouldn’t be an ending, or would violate thermodynamics.

The point is nobody being in charge, in shrinking authority while keeping coordination.

KillingTimeItself , (edited )

that’s an interesting place to use a thermodynamics jumpscare, but frankly i think we just need proper isolation from state and federal government, each has their own purpose. They should do specifically what is most productive for themselves and nothing more.

But that’s just me being fed up with shit being entirely inconsistent from state to state for no fucking reason.

melpomenesclevage ,

Not a jump scare; conservation. The warm fuzzy part?

Why do you want people in charge without coordination? That seems remarkably unpleasant.

KillingTimeItself ,

it’s not zero coordination, it’s highly coordinated, on account of being incredibly strict by design. The federal government would oversee things that are logical to be controlled by the federal government. The general workings of tax law for example. While state would focus on it’s micro system in comparison to the fed, adjusting federal tax law to be applicable to the state level.

Etc
 repeat ad nauseam, until government no longer shit.

melpomenesclevage ,

Read ‘brain of the firm’ and ‘seeing like a state’.

melpomenesclevage ,

Well, that’s a pretty good reason to break your neighbors shit.

orb360 ,

The connection isn’t for you. It’s so the TV can fingerprint the content you watch, and then send that utilization data back to the company.

You don’t need much bandwidth to do this.

So with no wifi connection, and a blueray player, if you play Star Wars, they can fingerprint a few frames, send them back to Roku or whoever over sidewalk via your neighbors ring doorbell, and know you played star wars
 Even with your completely offline setup

Bluefruit ,

Ah i see, so because its connected to other devices in the sidewalk network, if my neighbor has it hooked up to wifi and mine isnt, it still can connect to the internet.

Yea that sucks. I hate that. I have “smart” TV that i never connected to my wifi cause i use a pc for streaming.

Next thing yknow theres gonna be lte modems in these things that they pay to keep on just to spy on us ffs man.

melpomenesclevage , (edited )

Jacking off with a monkey paw while you dream of a mesh network. Thanks amazon.

RampantParanoia2365 ,

Do these show up as networks on devices, or are they kind of hidden? I’ve looked before and never seen any open wifi around my house, but I am near a mall and lots of shopping.

orb360 ,

They do not use wifi. They use BLE over short range, or LoRa or FSK on 900mhz over long distances. If you wanted to see them you’d probably need a scanner built specifically to find them but idk if anyone has made one.

Faceman2K23 ,
@Faceman2K23@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

LCDs do tend to speak somewhat standardised languages, but there is a lot more to a modern TV than just an LCD controller.

Color and white balance calibration, image/motion processing, HDR Processing, backlight control/dimming zones, input management, audio decoding/encoding/passthrough, digitizing analogue sources, HDMI licencing, Dolby licencing, etc.

If you want a better smart TV the best thing to do is to get a hackable TV like most android based models, replace the launcher, strip out system apps and telemetry with ADB and start fresh, then either leave it offline or use filtering to only allow access to the services you approve.

michel ,
@michel@friend.ketterle.ch avatar

@Faceman2K23
Do you know a list of hackable tv's or at least brands?
I'm very interested in preparing for the moment my current tv break.
@HaywardT

Faceman2K23 ,
@Faceman2K23@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Not sure if there’s a list, but most Android based TVs can be cleaned and modded to some degree via ADB. If you can access the dev settings in android, chances are you can do a lot to make it better, strip out some google or branded packages, replace the launcher to block OS level ads etc. Projectivy usually works well since it supports input switching on many devices, but it’s still better to do all of this to a separate box and then plug it into a TV that is firewalled/filtered/offline. more control and less to fuck up.

Rooting and unlocking bootloaders is more complex as these android devices dont have normal recovery systems and require a lot of custom drivers to make the video and audio processing work, so it’s not worth going that far.

Hamartiogonic ,
@Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz avatar

I wonder if anyone has made a custom rom for TVs, sort like Lineage or Graphene. These panels run Android, so why not?

Faceman2K23 ,
@Faceman2K23@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I have seen some talk over on XDA forums, but since there is more to an android TV than just the basic android OS, it’s a bit trickier without risking losing licences/compatibility/DRM/features.

Some older LG webOS tvs can be rooted and custom apps installed too such as ad free youtube players etc.

Hamartiogonic ,
@Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz avatar

Just found some LG business TVs/displays/signage that actually run Tizen. Remember that cool Linux distro that was supposed to take over the mobile world nearly 15 years ago? Well, turns out, it didn’t, but it didn’t it die completely either.

Hopefully those panels are a bit more hackable or more privacy oriented.

Faceman2K23 , (edited )
@Faceman2K23@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Gets even weirder when you see LGs webOS kinda started out as PalmOS

Opisek ,

Gawd, not Tizen. Their documentation is horrendous, there’s no wonder it never took over if developers were mentally punished for thinking of creating apps for it.

melpomenesclevage ,

Oh my god this is the most depressing shit. Remember just watching TV?

michel ,
@michel@friend.ketterle.ch avatar

@melpomenesclevage
Thats my plan. Installing and install the and Plugin for Kodi. And watching TV after that.

The depressing point is:
I need a VPN app like to block apps which violating my privacy.
I need Kodi and Software to have a seamless integration of two Services in one app.

But one thing is cool. The Rest API of Kodi will allow to steer the TV.
I currently use the on a raspi as an Alarmclock in the morning start online radio.

If everything works there is a plan for may use it with as gamestation.
In the near future I will also create a Videophone for my grandma with libre from .

RedEyeFlightControl ,
@RedEyeFlightControl@lemmy.world avatar

I have rematched controllers to displays in the past. It’s neither simple nor easy. You’ll need to dig through spec sheets to ensure you’re sending the correct signals over the correct pinouts, at the correct frequencies and voltages. Be prepared to read some IO documentation for the sending and receiving chipsts, then verify pinouts with certainty. They are not always standard.

Here are 2 identical LCDs, with 2 very similar, nearly identical looking controllers. Note that one needed to be re-wired. It is not fun butt-connecting 2 dozen 28ga wires.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/9026109e-521e-44a3-a36b-095179afab44.png

HaywardT OP ,

Why did you do it?

RedEyeFlightControl ,
@RedEyeFlightControl@lemmy.world avatar

I was a poor college student and had access to engineering samples from a local manufacturer. Discarded parts gave me twin 15" LCDs for free in the mid 00’s. Also, to see if I could. It was a fun challenge. These are different revs of a controller that were outfitted in several slot machine prototypes. They gave me many years of service. I probably still have inkjet prints of the pinout and signal diagrams, somewhere.

HaywardT OP , (edited )

Seems like a fun project to me too. It also seems like things have changed since the turn of the century, with regards to interoperability.

RedEyeFlightControl ,
@RedEyeFlightControl@lemmy.world avatar

Oh, things are way better now than they were back then. I’d still confirm via documentation that the interfaces are compatible :)

HaywardT OP ,

I retired from embedded systems design and design-for-manufacture a decade ago. Reading datasheets was most of the job. This doesn’t look too daunting. It’s a single interface between two readymade components. I’ve identified where some issues might come up, and there are probably some that I don’t know about yet. Still this seems less like building a circuit around existing ASICs and more like hooking up stereo equipment to me.

JATtho ,

The in-rush of endorphins when the modded LCD thing actually worked probably knocked you out?

A bit of a side story: I disassemble probably 1–5 panels in a week. (For recycling, it takes about 20-45min per panel.) The flat cables alone are so flimsy, I would say just assembling a display again from known, matched and functional parts would take days. I would triple or quadruple that to assemble a display from random parts. Considering this, that modded panel is quite amazing to me.

In standalone panels, the PSU has a chance of killing you: the main capacitors can hold multiple joules worth of nope, charged to about 400v. So, if the main caps are not allowed to discharge (if they discharge at all that is), there is a possibility of death when disassembling a panel with an integrated PSU. Waiting “5min” is bad; a PSU needs to be unplugged for a day or two at least before the charge drains out.

ordellrb ,

its doable with tablet and laptop screens but you need to know the exact model of the display-panel (not just the tv), i will get a large monitor if my current non smart TV from 2015 dies.

inclementimmigrant ,

Am I missing something here? Why in the hell would I try to jam this into a TV, something that’s not trivial btw and more than likely not compatible vs just not connecting the blasted thing to the network? Do they come with cellular data you can’t turn off or something?

quafeinum ,

Because some people don’t like the bloated ‘smart’ operating systems on their tvs or how they operate. I.e. input lag when pushing buttons, showing ads or other stupid bullshit. Tbh I’d rather have a large stupid lcd panel that just turns on and shows whatever I plug into it via hdmi.

The only alternative to replacing the board are commercial displays, but those are very expensive.

Thetimefarm ,

In short, this is one of those questions where if you have to ask the answer is no. It may be possible but unless you have a spare TV laying around that you don’t mind breaking it’s not a good idea to try. The best advice I have for any modder is to have multiples of whatever you’re modifying on hand.

HaywardT OP ,

I can think of no better use for a TV

mihnt ,

2 is 1, 1 is none.

egerlach ,

Through the magic of buying two of them


Sakychu ,

I understood that reference!

ColeSloth ,

Why buy one, when you can buy two at twice the price.

dutchkimble ,

And if you call us in the next 10 minutes we will give you three, that’s right, three, for only triple the price!

circuscritic ,

No, yes, maybe, but probably not.

Also, only do this if it’s a passion project for learning, because the odds that it works out the gate, and doesn’t require multiple repurchases, are very slim.

The odds that you never quite get it to work right, or at all, very high.

If you’re sure you want to do this, start by reading the technical documentation to get a grasp of which parts might, or should, work together, and how. Do this before making any purchases.

If that doesn’t sound appealing, then buy an “digital signage” or “enterprise/business class” TV, or find a dumb consumer TV, new or used.

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