It makes me so mad that there are so many artists I cannot see because they only offer tickets through this scam. Billy Joel has been a lifelong bucket list artist, and I can’t go see his tour because of this bullshit.
Oh well, I’ll continue going to concerts using tickets sold by the venue.
While they suck horribly, also scalpers. I have almost no issue with a venue requiring a verified app and quite frankly picture ID to allow entry. But please figure out how to do it without giving ticketmaster a dime.
I found this out after getting past security but before entering the venue. I had shit cell service and was just finding out I had to download, create an account for, and sign into their app, I was outside for maybe 10 minutes. Funny how they dont make you do any of this to buy the ticket, only after I paid money for it. AXS can suck my dick.
Hell I have the app on my phone, but yesterday, I received a ticket for an event, accepted it, and downloaded it to my phone without using that app at all.
I think OP is misunderstanding what is happening. The code changes every so often, probably to prevent people from passing around a screen shot and trying to get in that way. You can get the ticket without the app.
AXS does not integrate with google wallet. I put a note in each calendar event which app the tickets are in. At least the Pixel phones now let you put anything in your wallet that is a QR code. I wish it would let us put plain old images in the wallet.
Sure, they can you on, but which patron is the real patron?
Suppose the ticket was supplied as a PDF. Then it is either in the users Downloads directory or in their email. If that PDF is obtained by a malicious actor, it could be resold countless times. You could have 100 “guests” arrive at a venue with a bogus ticket but only the first one gets in, because they were scanned. That first person may not be the legitimate ticket owner.
Now, if your using their app, they usually put an animation over the barcode, and the gate attendants know to look for that. If that animation isn’t there, don’t scan. Pretty simple instructions to give to anyone. And accessing the app likely requires logging in, probably with some form of MFA (though probably SMS), so it gets a lot more difficult to rip off both the legitimate users and Ticketmaster in this way.
I don’t like having to use a specific app for things like this, but “I kinda get it”.
Now, it’d be better if we had a universal standard format for putting secure, validated passes into the native phone app. Perhaps registering your device to your account via their website, then only allowing the ticket to be installed on one device. I’m sure there’d be more to it, im just spitballing.
There you go, assuming the problem is worth the corporation’s time and money to bother solving. The correct answer is to not bother hiring a customer support department and telling people that they’re SOL when stuff goes wrong. The goal is to take in more money than you spend on customer support, so you spend none.
Unless they’re dealing dope on the DNM. Then they’re professional suppliers that want their product to generate as much as possible an oncoming, long term relationships that are respected for their strength in security and quality. You’re about as likely to get fentanyl in your meth when you buy from regular long term vendors as you get real professionals on the street that won’t stab you in the back; literally *and * metaphorically.
Dealing dope ain’t bad business because the nature of the acts potential only perpetrates damage on the community. It’s because the damn-near-century of the dope parade of prosecution trick you not looking down the scope of understanding. Liars and denials of all trues of value spin the product responsible for anything at all to save your life and ignoring the blatantly obvious paint of something less than an object even being able to make a choice like you or I.
Objects do not make choices. Your choices, when blamed on “addiction” (a completely nonexistant concept just like objects able to make choices and will) is at least a misleading denial of the truth if not a deceptive trick to give you ideas that have value determining your will.
That might sound ridiculous but that’s be cause it is. Drugs don’t make choices. You, people, make choices. Every fucking word the DEA says does absolutely nothing but gamble on the viability of the life of everyone. Everyone loses because objects will never have will, make a choice, or perceive the truth.
They aren’t trying to win the inevitable death path. They’re fucking paving it via baking the planet, infecting everything and everyone everywhere, simulating intelligence with an object of no real similarity to usual and with zero true understanding of what intelligence even is, let alone how.
Denying women’s right to do better than what we call ruling or leadership, because none of us have ever done that truely even in our last 12ky, is the very source of this collective suicide.
There will be drugs. You will do them and die. But the suicide is from the dope. It’s the Karma of denying women’s their rights when they hold that chains of all your skulls on their neck.
There are many other ways in life where you can have fun without getting fucked sideways by a corporation. But you do you, but make sure you keep complaining about it on social media while you keep letting them do that, though. That’ll teach them a lesson :)
Well, you’re also then leaving the bands you love hung out to dry.
No one is fuckin happy about it. I don’t like record labels and their practices either, but you have to end up supporting them when you support the artists. Capitalism is the problem. And it’s pervasive. The Ticketmaster problem is also present in ISPs and cell phone companies. Did you forego giving money to both of those industries to make this comment?
Bands have enough money and influence to do something about it instead of leaving us the helpless peasants fight for their livelihood. And comparing essential utilities to tickets isn’t a good one, my friend. Also, with ISPs and cellphone companies, we actually have plenty of options.
I’m talking about the arrangement of how companies have worked since the deregulation 80s. Multiple huge bands have tried to change the monopoly Ticketmaster/livenation hold in the industry. And most bands that aren’t global phenomena are beholden to their record labels, who are beholden to Ticketmaster. Blaming the bands is pretty shitty. They’re about as powerless as we are, honestly.
Also, ISPs famously have divided the country up and all collectively decided to stay out of each other’s territories for the most part—and they are all running on OUR lines that are public. They supply the “last mile,” but we are still paying them to allow us access to our own infrastructure.
I’m just saying, there are so many examples of this. Airlines are the same. Greyhound busses. Trains. Search engines. Google. Credit reporting agencies. Big movie studios. Capitalism is beyond fucked up. Ticketmaster is one small part, and their lobbying power keeps their control. I buy plenty of tickets through smaller distributors like Dice. These are all pretty similar situations. Money = power, and the more power you have, the more power you have, on and on until you control whatever it is.
You technically have some choice, but your route, your band, your internet, your cell phone carrier, your search engines…a lot of them have pretty much cornered a huge share of the market through power brokering/lobbying/VCs funding them. Look at ride shares. VCs drove the price down by operating at a loss for like a decade+. And now that they took over the market, they have all the power.
Your problem isn’t with the bands trying to make a living. It’s with capitalism.
For me personally, yes, that’s a solution, but for me only, people can do whatever they want. I’m not responsible for the artists’/comedians’ fights. If they’re ok with it, then why should I care?
You’re talking about the same company that charges a “convenience” fee for ordering online. Then if you decide to go to buy them in person you charge a “facilities” fee.
It’s really sad because the artists have little to no control over this. It is the venues who are contracted through Ticketmaster.
I remember Pearl Jam suing them for this in the 90s. Unfortunately, Pearl Jam lost and here we are 30 years later still dealing with their monopolistic tactics.
The Amazon equivalent for my country does this for their site on mobile by removing filters and making it so anything related to your account just tells you to use the app.
However If you toggle desktop mode in your browser everything works perfectly fine. It’s almost as if they just want to data mine you. Surely no company would have that as a motive!
