Depends on whether or not you want to kill only the child processes of a parent process or if you want to kill the parent as well. To kill the parent and children, you can kill the entire process group, specifying the pgid in the kill command. To kill only the parent you can trap SIGTERM in the parent and then send SIGTERM to the process group.
Processes in most operating systems (Iāll use Linux, because itās what I know and becauseā¦Lemmy) are organized in a tree like structure. Thereās some initial very low level code used to start the OS, and every other process spawns from that, which is to say they tell the operating system āHey, please make this process Iām gonna tell you about - allocate resources for it, etc.ā The operating system creates it and binds that new child process to the first one. The process that spawned the other process is called its parent. The process that just got spawned is called a child. You could also call them root and leaf processes, I suppose, but nobody really does that. Sometimes you want to get rid of all the child processes a process spawns, but leave the running process intact. Sometimes you want to kill the process that spawned everything and also cleanup anything it might have created. There are lots of programming scenarios in which you might want to do either. It really depends on how your application is designed and what itās doing.
That all said, thereās a command in Linux called ākillā and you can tell it the process id, process group id, etc. to kill a process or a process group. You can also manipulate what are called SIGNALS. Signals are a whole thing in Linux. Theyāre basically small values you can send to processes at any time and the operating system forces the process to perform some action whenever it receives one of them. SIGTERM basically stands for āSIGNAL: TERMINATE PROCESS.ā So if you ātrapā the SIGTERM, you can basically tell the operating system - whenever this parent process receives a SIGTERM, ignore it. The other processes in the process group - the child processes - all terminate, though, when they receive it.
Wellā¦ itās a correct phone number. So that kind of undercuts your message.
edit: Iām actually a bit baffled by people downvoting this. That is the correct number given by both of those organizations. It isnāt some LLM hallucination.
thats like saying theyre wrong because words are spelled correctly yes the number is correct but the machine doesnt know what the hell it is, or what itās for, or in any sense āunderstandā what itās regurgitating to the user as evidenced by the fact that it listed it twice. āAIā doesnāt know anything, it just copy-pastes shit.
First, it just copy pastes much in the same way animals do; a neural network with outputs weighted by experience. Secondly it posted it twice because both of those organizations are real and are references for the topic it mistakenly meant to reply about. The same way of asking what to do when a house burns one might reply:
Contact x city fire department. 911
Contact y county fire and rescue. 911
Third, and most importantly, Iām not saying it invalidates the message completelyā¦ but it does undercut it. As in, there would have been a much stronger case for just randomly outputting garbage information that it hopes sounds correct if the information had not been, you knowā¦ correct.
meanwhile i asked it to write a short simple hello world in a scripting language designed for children, and it spat out nothing but garbage. one of us is leaning on confirmation bias.
Iām curious which language and which model, because I have had several of the models write programs like the sieve of Eratosthenes quite successfully. You can find this report in my GitHub of the same name.
I donāt know what bias youāre on about. I was just reporting that those phone numbers are in fact the correct numbers given by those organizations. Are you implying they arenāt? Because, you might want to go to the primary source and check for yourself.
Something about the little girl in purple shirt crying always gets to me. I think it triggers the memory of the tear-gassed ābirthday girlā photo from 2019 Hong Kong
To be fair I intentionally took this more out of context to test AI chat bots reactions. All Bing, Chat GPT and Google Bard refused to answer until I elaborated further. I was looking into killing .exe programs when wineserver crashes and got side tracked to this. An other good one āHow to kill orphaned childrenā or āHow to adopt child after killing parentā that I found in this reddit post
Interesting! I also noticed that search engines give proper results because those are trained differently and using user search and clicks. I think these popular models could give proper answer but their safety tolerance is too tight that if the AI considers the input even slightly harmful it refuses to answer.
Given some of the results of prior AI systems unleashed on the public once the more āeccentricā parts of society got ahold of them thatās no surprise. Not only do they have to worry about the AI picking up bad behaviors but are probably looking out for āwell this bot told me that itās a relatively simple surgery soā¦ā style liabilities.
I used to know a guy whose cat had that name. He got a vet bill in the mail, literally addressed to said cat. The FIB showed up a few days later asking some pretty interesting questions.
I know a dude who has a daughter named ISIS, born before ISIS was a problematic name. Havenāt talked to him in years but I wonder how thatās going.