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UrLogicFails OP ,
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While the fact that Twitter is run by a flagrant right-wing fascist who would do anything to help other major right-wing fascists is nothing new, I did think this was an interesting look at the state of social media.

The idea that you can never own your own account (and likely, by extension, anything you post on said account) really drives home the point that the Internet as it is now is basically wholly owned by a handful of corporations.

I don't know if we'll ever be able to reach the point of everyone making their own silly little sites again. It seems like social media is now required to drive views, so the artists who need views for sales will always need to be on social media.

Luckily, decentralized social media is on the rise. Lemmy, while still comparatively small, has a fairly active user base; and while Mastodon has not (and likely will not) ever be mainstream, even Bluesky is technically decentralized as well (I think).

Having said all that, I would very much like to see people making their own sites just for things they enjoy. It's surprisingly not that hard to do as long as you don't need it very polished.

chaos ,
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Bluesky's more like an aspirationally decentralized platform, you can keep your own data on your own server and use your own domain name as a user name, but most of the rest of it is "centralized, but we're designing it in such a way that we can open it up later." Even then, though, it's heavily influenced by the original idea of "let's make something decentralized that Twitter can switch to once it's worked out" which means that even when they do open things up, it's likely that a lot of Bluesky will only be practical at "big tech company scale" to run yourself, whereas Mastodon or Lemmy you can just spin up on a server and it'll be fine until you get a lot of users.

originalucifer ,
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they also recently stated 'we designed it traffic heavy at the relay with the expectation that only big companies would manage relays' as their admitted 'decentralization' strategy. ya know, instead of coming up with something more actually distributed. it really feels like they have no intention of true federation.

NoIWontPickAName ,

Feel free to jump in and help with that problem

originalucifer ,
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kk

theangriestbird ,
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Luckily, decentralized social media is on the rise. Lemmy, while still comparatively small, has a fairly active user base; and while Mastodon has not (and likely will not) ever be mainstream, even Bluesky is technically decentralized as well (I think).

The paradox of modern social media. Twitter was only good because it was packed with normies, which gave a sense of being part of global conversations that included more than just your subset of weirdos. Bluesky is only becoming good because the normies are finally moving over. However, like Twitter, Bluesky is currently a centralized platform. The simplicitly of centralization is why the normies are there. It's also the reason why Bluesky is doomed to eventually end up like Twitter, unless Jay Graber and the other shareholders magically decide that the initial growth phase is enough and they don't need to grow anymore. But this is capitalism, and we all know how this ends up. Jack Dorsey may have had lofty goals for Bluesky, but he doesn't even work there anymore. The neverending demand for growth will push Bluesky to end up exactly like Twitter, perhaps even ending in another purchase by a billionaire fascist. It is inevitable.

At least Beehaw is cool and nonprofit.

tardigrada ,

I recently posted an article in another thread about Bluesky. It's from 2023, but worth reading in case you don't know it:

BlueSky is cosplaying decentralization

The_Decryptor ,
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Jack Dorsey may have had lofty goals for Bluesky, but he doesn’t even work there anymore.

Which is a point in Bluesky's favour.

eldavi ,

even Bluesky is technically decentralized as well (I think).

it is technically; but it's already thoroughly enshitified as exemplified by their push to censor gazan users under the guise of spam.

jlow ,
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You can totally own your social media accounts (and I think politicians, parties, companies and people should) if you run your own Mastodon, Peertube etc instance (sure, AI-ssholes will still steal you data but you can't not have that if you do something on the public internet today, apparently). Yes, only a few people will want to learn how to do that but just like with email and websites (more things all of the above people should have) you can buy hosted versions and do backups, move to a different host, own your data. The problem is that people don't care until it's too late.